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Originally Posted by Rose of Cairo

I believe a DW can very well be willing to cook for people who will never return the favor: in order for other (useful) people around to think he's such a generous nice guy, for instance, or that he's so fun to be around. They think in more complicated ways than just "will they give something back?".

Yes, the DW may act generously, if the political environment is right, but won't they resent it?

Won't DWs try to push the political environment in a direction where it is seen that the weak deserve nothing, and that to give to the undeserving promotes weakness? One that fits their dispositions better, and where LWs will reap only criticism for trying to do good?

It still doesn't look to me that the LWs and DWs are following paths that lead to the same destination.

Originally Posted by MasterD

However, at some point the DW will realize by being overly selfish he destroys his environment and therefore he destroys himself with it. Therefore it becomes in his own self interest to serve the greater good. For the LW the story is vice versa. He realizes that he has to be 'selfish' in order to better to serve the greater good.

So both LWs see that certain kinds of inflow commitments and DWs see that certain kinds of outflow commitments are necessary to best pursue their life purpose. I still don't see where the DW starts to act in the best interests of the weakest. In fact, won't DWs prefer a much harsher world than the one we live in now? They might not want to destroy the world, but they might like climate change, with its scary stormy weather and the fight for less unflooded land. It would help them argue that there's not enough to go round, and that looking just after one's own is simple good sense.

Originally Posted by MasterD

You are right about a DW not willing to cook for people who will never return the favour; but can you see that both the LW path and DW path COULD lead to the same place?

Well, surely I see that I could be wrong, but to the extent that maturity brings some convergence between the LW and DW, I still think it leaves gulf between them, in what they want and how they go about getting it.