[Markus74]

Originally Posted by impaul99

Have you ever had a dream in which there was a car? Well, when you looked at that car driving by on the street, were you aware of how a car works? Like if you dreamt of a Ferrari driving by, do you know the intricate details of all the car parts and how they interact together to make the Ferrari work? Most of us don't, yet we can still dream of a Ferrari.

D'oh! Of course we can dream about a Ferrari because we've seen one! But somebody who has never seen a Ferrari in his real life will not see one in his dreams either. I couldn't dream what the engine of a Ferrari looks like because I've never seen one. You can't dream about something that you haven't seen. Even the weird things are mixtures of things you know.

So your example is somewhat flawed I would say.

How do you know that that same subconscious mind of yours that creates the complicated worlds inside your dreams isn't creating your world right now?

Because this world is way more consistent than the dream world. The dream world is fuzzy, illogical, non-linear, etc. And you always wake up from it.

So, you would have to agree that what you're really after is a way to make $$$ in such a way that you can do it, but it doesn't screw up the entire world.

It wouldn't screw up my world if I was the only one able to do it, lol.

"I would like to manifest $10,000 to come to me in an explainable way that doesn't ruin my world, but also carries with it a little 'wink' that tells me it was manifested and not normally earned."

Ok.
1. How would I have to formulate/intend it? In a way so people here cannot say later: Well, dude, you did it the wrong way! Of course it didn't realize!

2. How long would I have to wait for it to become true? Because if I inherit $10000 in 2015 because of the death of my uncle, who has no children, then I wouldn't attribute it to the LoA because it's not such a big surprise.

3. Not normally earned AND statistically very improbable! Even if the chances of the lottery are 1:200.000.000 to win if there are several hundred million people participating one or more HAVE to win at one time or the other. So no real surprise there neither. of course the winner will be amazed that HE's the winner, what were the odds for that??? But on the other hand it's no surprise statistically.

Originally Posted by Acting Like Godot

Possibly it's something like Jesus refusing to perform that miracle to prove himself to the Pharisees.

Yeah, probably. How surprising that the miracles don't work with skeptics around ... What BS! Miracles would have to work independently of who's watching. If not then they're frauds. Why couldn't a miracle be used to teach the skeptic?

You fallen in love before, Markus? Naaaaaaaah. You can't have. For you, love has not been scientifically proven, therefore it can't exist. Heheh.

Of course I have fallen in love. And love can be proven. You've got a real person, you've got a connection between the two, they do stuff for each other that they wouldn't do for others, they would even often die for another, etc. Of course love can be faked too. And the chemicals and psychology also play a role. But love is much more real than those miracles you're talking about.

Originally Posted by Jill

Sure you can just go out an make money. But if you're not thinking about it and putting all your energy into it, it's going to be a lot harder.

Of course. As I said I've got no problem with the LoA as motivational tool. But what's absolutely ridiculous is the magical claims that people make. I could create things out of thin air if I just believed in it, huge sums of money will just appear in my life without ANY reason at all, etc.

Why is life necessarily any different than a dream?

Because actions here have consequences? Unlike the dream world where there is no linearity, no consistency, etc.

And it's pretty exciting to think about!

If it doesn't end in sheer madness ...