[jsam]

Michael,

I appreciate your critique of my messages.
You are right that someone saying something doesn't make it so. Truth itself cannot be contained in human words, or thinking. And statements are only relatively true, at best. Some people seem to have a limited idea of what people who call themselves atheists can believe. I gave Dawkins as an example of one who does not believe in a personal god that is involved in human affairs. The fact that he is a moral, compassionate person does not matter in the view of some people who judge him. Einstein has been regarded as an atheist; his own writings speak of a god , and he objected to the view of some quantum physicists, that the world "happened" to come into being by chance, from the probablistic nature of the "particles" of energy that make up matter. He said "God does not play with dice". His writings show that he did not believe in the personal god (evolved from Moses' terrorist god, Yaweh), but in a universal creating consciousness far beyond the imaginations of humans.

I By "open minded", I mean not judgemental, not ruling out ideas based on held beliefs and prejudices. And, BTW, we (ego's) never "use our minds"(brains + whatever); they use us!

E=MCsquared states that energy/matter is constant (the speed of light, C, being constant). In terms of our universe, it means that energy/matter cannot be destroyed; it is eternal.

Namaste....jsam