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Originally Posted by Angela  Oh, was that the point of my original post? I hadn't realized. Thanks for pointing that out!  |
My bad.
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Originally Posted by Angela Actually, I don't believe any objective morality exists, period. My post was asking, "who says there has to be a goal" father- or otherwise? -- as if it is just an undisputable fact that we must have goals. I don't see the necessity of goals, except in the most basic of ways, such as reaching for an apple. I think it's funny that people believe thoughts like, "But you have to have a goal!" (or any other thought, come to think of it!) as if it were The Truth.
I see goals more and more as mere, secondary signposts, little game flags that give me a fun signal about who I'm being. The being is the primary part. But that's not The Truth!  |
I agree that it's all about being. Awareness of just being is what I meant by contemplation of the divine.
My argument rests in the assumption that there are characteristics that aid us in becoming aware of being. The goal is the realisation of those virtuous characteristics and subsequent appreciation of love and life versus a person who does not possess virtuous characteristics and subsequently does not experience that. Also assumed is that these virtuous characteristics are not inherent in all people but are learned, particularly from the observation of role models and ourselves. Full incorporation of those virtues into the way you are would be fulfilment of the telos, and the goal is no longer a goal: it's a reality- as is perhaps happening for you
. As you can see, in this scheme the telos is simultaneously an end and a path.