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Old 04-14-2008, 03:27 PM   #7 (permalink)
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What I mean is that 'Life' has no puropose. (imho)

Life is just life. Complex carbon behaviour. No 'other side', no external influences' just atomic interaction and chemical reactions. So whats the point? Where does personal effectiveness matter. Does it matter? Well, yes. Experience is everything. Being effective squeezes more out of our short existence than what the masses generally get. Effectiveness increases good experiences.
This seems contradictory. "Life has not purpose" and but "Personal effectiveness and experience matters". If there's not purpose - then nothing would matter but you say experience matter. Or that's to say the purpose is experience.

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This I suppose is akin to an Existentialist worldview. ie Nothing matters - 'being' is what is important.
That's what makes existentialism blow up on itself. It proposes that nothing matters but then makes a statement that something does matter.

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Someone once said, without 'god', everything is possible, or words to that effect. What I translate this to be is by throwing off any old yokes we have, we can free ourselves from unnecessary burdens and stretch out our potential and personal effectiveness.(Remember, morality isnt a religious phenomena. In fact I would argue that religion is divisive and a-moral.)
Who said that, without 'god' everything is possible? If without god means casting off old yokes - that is not what being with god is. Being with God is Being, is having experience with consciousness. Now tossing out religion I'd agree with - that's just someone else's interpretation of Being and won't get you there - it's very individualistic.

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Just a thought.

Does existentialism broaden your horizons?
I'd have to know more what it means to think existentially. But in one way it means to acknowledge existence or the material world, right? Well, I suppose that could be taken to mean the 3d world can't be ignored anyway, so roll with it. And even though I keep looking for spirit and soul, and seeing glimpses of 3d not being the whole ball of wax - I still don't think the illusion of the 3d world goes away. The illusion exists (as an illusion).
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