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Originally Posted by Jamie

I tend to resonate with this; but it also strikes me that men can be just as they are, and if you accept yourself, without trying to force yourself in to any mold, just be natural, you can talk to women, and have interactions with them, and it's all good. That's kinda where I am now, I don't expect or need anything back, and I can have an honest interaction and say just what I feel or think (but no 'gushing'), and I feel less need to please or to gain approval.

As guys, we don't have to expect things to go further than that. I think the problem comes when as a guy, you feel you have jump through hoops, or be like this or that (some idealised image of mr perfect), or otherwise distort our being. In fact, I suspect, the more willing we are to jump through hoops and not be true to ourselves, the less attractive we are to women.

Though I think we should concern ourselves, with being true to oursevels, more than with being attractive to women.

Yeah, that's perceptive. Not just with females but with life on the whole.