View Single Post
Old 04-08-2008, 09:34 PM   #57 (permalink)
missing
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Portland, OR
Posts: 384
missing is on a distinguished road
Default

well I for one am thankful you have been so open. I doubt I would post here if I didn't see it as a place where one could do such things. Who knows, perhaps it is not but I haven't given up yet. In many ways I completely agree with your general position re: women. I have to apologize if I come off as an ass or am projecting the wrong things onto you. Neither is my intent. Mostly I just don't believe you when you say that "you are not bitter". This isn't really personal. I feel the same way about anyone, male or female, when they say things about how they "don't need the opposite sex" and that they are not "bitter" that things aren't working out. It's sort of like the aging lybyrated career womyn who prominently proclaims any chance she gets, that she needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle. Who is she kidding? Men and women do need one another, and it's really a tragedy that society works so hard to keep us at one another's throats.

I can totally understand not wanting to be a part of that situation, and not wanting to engage in things like "chasing women". Neither do I! But that doesn't mean I like not participating in this situation, and I don't get the sense that you do either. We'd both rather satisfy a need for female companionship in an honest, open way. And society gives us no help in this manner. I don't know about you but this makes me angry. I realize that anger is not a preferable state to be in, but their are worse things to be. If anger is one's legitimate response to a situation, I don't see why one should try and skirt around it. It's at least a step up from depression as feelings are being directed outward rather than inward, which may eventually lead to action. Maybe not, but you've gotta start somewhere.

Of course if as you claim you are not angry about things that's fine. I don't understand it but you feel what you feel and no matter what it's perfectly valid. It still does concern me when you say you will be "despising most women" while claiming not to hate them. I feel that to be a rather slippery slope to go down, simply because I don't see it lining up to reality. Perhaps it helps me that I have lived with attractive women (as roommates) and while they exhibited the same issues as most women, the kind that annoy the piss out of both you and I, it was easy to see they were not power tripping about it. They were simply confused, and not particularly happy about it. These were not shallow people either, and for the most part intelligent, but they were caught up in a cultural inertia like most of us. Now I'm not saying one should be feeling sympathy for them, but it helps to understand why they are the way they are, simply to better one's own understanding of reality. I think convincing yourself that women are somehow out to get men is doing yourself a disservice in that you are convincing yourself of a false reality. And in the end by doing so you will only be hurting yourself.

But this is just my take so I could of course be way off.
missing is offline   Reply With Quote