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Old 12-01-2006, 08:19 AM   #86 (permalink)
Markus74
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Originally Posted by Acting Like Godot View Post
You have to understand that everything is interconnected. When you meet Person A, he is also meeting you. You have manifested him into your life, just as he was manifested you. Even though the reasons why he appeared in your life will probably be different from the reasons why you appeared in his.
Which would mean that you can ONLY manifest people that manifest you. You cannot manifest anyone or anything then. That's quite a restriction.

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A common piece of IM advice is that you have to be clear about the what, but don't worry about the how. Leave that to the universe. Deepak Chopra describes it in this way - the universe has infinite organising power.
And yet the Universe then has to be either uncaring or utterly stupid if it realizes things that makes people suffer.

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Herein you also find the answer to your "free will" dilemma. For example, let's say I wish to improve my music skills quickly. I manifest this intention. Lo and behold, two weeks later I just happen to meet a talented music teacher who's happy to give me lessons, starting that very week.
Where would you meet this teacher? At a music school?

And it still could have been complete coincidence. The thing is that people often don't recognize coincidence as coincidence because their view is limited. They think: Oh, no! This couldn't just have happened like that! This HAS TO BE magic.

The problem is they don't know anything about probability and odds.

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Now, I did not "remote-control" this talented music teacher. I did not force him to be my teacher. I merely manifested the intention to improve my music skills. How to improve those skills? I left the details to the universe. The universe then arranged for this particular teacher to enter my life. This one particular teacher.
So it had, or could, only be this one teacher? Why not somebody else?

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What you must understand is that I have also entered this teacher's life for a reason. For example, maybe he had manifested the intention to earn more money; or he just felt like having a new student; or some other reason it was appropriate that I enter his life at that point in time (maybe he needs free legal advice on some personal matters; I happen to be a lawyer).
Nice theory. Can you rephrase that example with a child and its rapist please. Or someone who's dying of cancer. Or from hunger. Maybe I can better understand it then. Thank you.

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"Bah!" you say. "That is just too coincidental." Deepak Chopra's response to that is basically, all coincidences are meaningful. Nothing is actually random. The universe is perfectly arranged.
Does he have ANY proof for that?

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"When the student is ready, the teacher will appear."
I see this more along the lines of: If the student is ready then he's more able to recognize potential teachers. That's why he will find one. The teacher will not just fall out of the sky.

And again: Why can all the examples of manifestion, subjective reality, etc also be explained rationally or by referring to coincidence? Why aren't there ANY examples of people bending physics? People regrowing amputated limbs? People flying?

Oh, let me guess. It the PEOPLE's fault! They don't really believe it enough!!! But the LoA and SR can't ever be wrong. That's just impossible!

lol, that's such a naive and childish view.
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