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Originally Posted by missing well I have to severely disagree with you on many levels. For one thing you have mis-titled this thread badly as it is not intended for those who are truly suicidal. It's more geared to those who are discontent and maybe have passing thoughts of suicide. Big difference, and I think it should be better clarified, in the post if not the title. . |
My post was made on the spur of the moment after I heard from my friend who lives in Michigan that his neighbor very nice guy (19 years old )committed suicide. It was so sad to hear …and I couldn’t stop thinking about his desperate parents (my daughter is 19 too). That is why I mentioned suicide in the title. But I guess that it doesn’t matter what title is, the most important if my post would plant a little positive “seed” in someone’s mind before negative thoughts take it over. Everything starts from only one/first thought and then it is like a snow ball getting bigger and bigger…
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Originally Posted by missing Secondly I disagree with your "all or nothing" thinking, though I see this as a bigger cultural problem. People want change to happen overnight. They want instant gratification. Now I don't really know where you get the idea that there is something "wrong" or "impossible" about moving slowly. I know you speak from experience, but so do I. While the "move slowly" tactic can be difficult and at times painful I do find it overall pretty rewarding. You experience things that'd you'd miss out completely with an "instant catharsis". . |
Well, I don’t see any cultural problems about this. Everything I can say is just to praise you if you are able consistently move slowly, step-by-step and reach your goal! Most of the people including me very often go in circles (if I can say so?) around the goal, they promise to fight the bad habit (pattern, distractive program) but end up doing it again and again. So any mean is good if it helps. For those who can’t be consistent and got caught into destructive pattern sometimes the only way out is complete drastic change. That is why people commit suicide ---- for the drastic change! Suicide is a last “jump” into a free fall when there is no way back. They maybe don’t know that it is possible to do it and still stay alive.
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Originally Posted by missing And finally I would say that hope is incredibly overrated and that the only way to truly live is to give up hope completely. Once you do that, you can begin to engage with reality as it is, and not as you want it to be. . |
I smile!

You underestimate the power of hope for sure. Just because of hope you still alive and do what you do everyday: wake up in the morning, go to work, eat, sleep, create and so on! Get it away from you and you will become a member of suicidal club at no time.
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Originally Posted by missing In short I think your advice may have some usefulness to a select group of people who maybe have hit a brief rough patch. But to the truly suicidal/hopeless I think it comes off as patronizing. Nothing personal, just my honest reaction. |
I don’t care how many people would read it. If I could reach at least one person with my message I would be happy!