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Old 11-30-2006, 08:29 AM   #76 (permalink)
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Personally, I believe the concept of intention manifestation and the law of attraction to be a little too farfetched. Whilst it is obvious to me that your thoughts determine your actions and so consequently have a dramatic affect on your reality and how you interpret that reality, to suggest that your thoughts somehow create your reality bypassing the need to act, seems abit outlandish to say the least.

This reminds me too much of The Matrix and the teachings of the pseudoscience bashing new age entity named Ramtha. So before you're ready to throw in the towl of sanity and ignore all logical impulses, I urge you to be a bit more sceptical and question this dogma.

If however you are too wrapped up in the mysticism of this concept to question it rationally, then I challenge you to jump off a cliff and manifest the intention to sprout wings.
Excellent point in your life you have gotten yourself to. Obviously since you've taken the time to see The Matrix, and know what Ramtha is about and looked at the Law of Attraction and such, you are SEEKING. The only reason you are SEEKING answers is because you really don't believe your old, purely scientific/objective world view anymore, but you simply haven't gotten to the point yet where you are convinced enough to believe in LOA and Manifestation "out of thin air".

If LOA is simply just about changing your thought systems so that you take more consistent action to achieve a goal, then it's nothing really special. We all already KNOW that if we worked out 5 days a week we would have sculpted bodies and if we saved 10-20% of our income and worked our butts off and invested properly and budgeted our money our finances would be in much better shape. We've known that way of achieving things for a long time and it's not what you are SEEKING.

What you are SEEKING is "proof" that things can be manifested WITHOUT the required action steps normally associated with manifesting them. It seems rediculous to our logical mind that this could be possible, just like it seems rediculous for an adult to believe in Santa Claus, but yet we look around and we kind of see this type of thing happening. People who just always seem to "create" bad luck, or people who seem to achieve certain things with nowhere near the amount of action that other people require to achieve the same thing. There is a part of you that wonders, what if?

I was there once, and I'll tell you right now that no book, no blog post, no DVD, no forum message will EVER offer enough "proof" to you for you to truly believe that LOA works. The ONLY way for it to be proven to yourself is to experience it first hand. The only way you will actually believe it is if you manifest something "out of thin air" for yourself, and the thing that you manifest goes well beyond something that could simply be attributed to "co-incidence". It has to be something of big enough magnitude that your ego can no longer deny that there is absolutely NO WAY that this was pure co-incidence.

I've done this for myself, and experienced LOA first hand, so nobody can convince me otherwise, but until then I was just as skeptical as you.

Here's the challenge. In order to do that, in order to manifest something of big enough magnitude to satisfy your ego, you're going to have to put the law of manifestation to work without actually believing it. Ie. the process has to be as follows:

1) Pretend to believe LOA actually works as an experiment in one area of your life.
2) Create an intention to manifest something of big enough magnitude that it will convince you that it works.
3) Look for "evidence" that it's working in that area of your life. Write about it in your journal. Pretend that you are an actor playing the role of a person who believes that this actually works, just for that one manifestation.
4) Continue to hold the intention, continue to pretend to believe, just for that one area of your life for that one manifestation. You can live the rest of your life skeptical just like you are now, but in that one area just "try it".
5) Read articles about LOA, watch "The Secret", research anything you can on LOA and try to apply it to that one area.
6) At some point you will actually convince yourself that in that one area, for that one manifestation, LOA *could* actually work. Your subconsious will stop fighting the idea because you're just "acting" and "pretending" so it's ok.
7) One day, the manifestation will happen, you will stand there in equal parts awe/fear. You will have proven to yourself that LOA works, and there will be no doubt in your mind anymore that this could be a co-incidence. This day you will write for 3 hours in your journal because it's so exciting and will no longer need to question this topic.
8) The consequences of this new belief will hit you and you will now need to start looking for other areas of your life where you need to explore your beliefs and re-evaluate things. It is this "falling apart of beliefs" that you are really fearing to begin with.

This is really the only way to ever know whether this LOA thing really works. Even if 10,000 people tell you it does, it's not enough. Even if a million people tell you, it's not enough. It's only via direct experience that you will ever know whether it works or not.

After I re-read what I just wrote above I realized that some people might see a paradox here, saying that this won't work because in order to manifest using LOA you need to believe that LOA works but in order to really believe LOA really works you need to see direct result from it so you're stuck in a chicken/egg scenario. Perhaps you're wondering if people less intelligent than you can get LOA to work because they are too stupid to question the science behind it so they blindly believe in LOA and then it starts working for them because they believe, but since your mind is too intelligent to believe in something like this without proof, you're stuck in a paradox.

The way out of the paradox is to realize that what you believe can be manipulated by yourself. You can "trick" yourself to believe something temporarily if you want to by pretending you believe it. It's the "act as if" principle. You just pretend you believe something, talk about it like you believe it, take action like you believe it, and pretty soon your brain starts to believe you do believe it, but you can still have that skeptic inside knowing it's just a trick until you experience the results of the manifestation. Then you can really believe it.

I must warn you of one thing. Once you succeed at this, and you prove to yourself LOA works, your life will change. With the benefits LOA brings, don't think that it's all gravy. Once you prove to yourself you can create anything, you will have to face questions like "What do I *really* want?" and "Why?" and "Who am I?" and "What is the purpose of all this?". This is not a bad thing, but it is different then the life you're living now where the world is happening TO you and you don't really have a lot of responsibility.

Anyway, just my 2c.
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