I know I'm a little late to respond, but I've been pretty busy. I don't see any "confusions" in my paragraph at all besides to stay open minded and not to belief in absolutist statements.
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ill address a few of the confusions in your paragraph:
1- atheism is not a belief, its a lack of belief in god |
Yes, I am fully aware of this, but it still represents your viewpoint or "beliefs", even if they are non-beliefs. You don't believe in god = You DO believe there is no god. If you want to be technical, everybody is an atheist unless they believe in every single god. One could believe in the Christian god, but reject the greek gods. Therefor they are atheistic towards the greek gods.
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3- the reason i write is to educate and inform people of the fact that gods existence is unknown, and therefore belief that god exists objectively is unjustified
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There's nothing wrong with educating people, but what I see is an argument that has no end and many repeated statements. I feel that belief in a higher power is something that should be personal and found on your own. Not by listening to somebody preaching over the internet. The bottom line is people are not going to care or listen if they are set in their beliefs, no matter what you say.
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4- faith is nothing more then an excuse to believe things without evidence, if i have faith i can fly can i? will you tell me i cant? thats all i do towards the faith in god
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That's why it is called faith, my friend. Faith by definition is blind. I don't see a problem with having faith at all. I have faith that my lifestyle (not worshiping any god) is perfectly fine and there will be no consequences for my actions. I'm sure you do to. I don't see why you have a problem with this.
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5- belief that the soul, ghosts are any of that other stuff you mentioned objectively exists is also unjustified, irrational.
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But it is also just a belief, which was my point. I didn't say they definitely existed. I said they can't be proven, but many believe in them. Who are you to say what beliefs are justified and what aren't, anyways? The point was that just because science can't explain something, does not mean it doesn't exist. What about someone who sees a flying saucer, but doesn't have proof. He KNOWS they exist, but others do not and science can't prove it (publicly at least).
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6- you saying to let people believe what they want is self refuting, because i believe gods existence is unknown, so take your own advice and let me believe what i want. and talk about it.
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I believe it is unknown as well. BUT THAT'S JUST A BELIEF!! It is not universal truth. There's a difference between talking about your beliefs and putting others down because of theirs. I see no reason for that. If somebody comes up to me and says they believe in a god I have no problem with that. I can respect it. If someone comes up to me and says "I can prove god, scientifically", then I have a problem, because it's obviously not true. Having beliefs is what makes us human. We want an explanation for everything so we fill in the gaps with what we see fit.
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7-the big bang has mainstream scientific consensus.
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But it's not proven beyond the shadow of a doubt. You just committed the fallacy of appeal to popularity. The majority of the scientific community believes man made global warming is real and a threat, but I have serious doubts about that as well. Most of the alleged melted ice is back and bigger than it was.
I didn't respond to everything because I either agreed with the rest or didn't feel a need to argue it. I'm a strong advocate of freedom. Especially freedom of religion. I don't see any harm in believing in god at all, so why persecute people for doing it?
Let me ask you one question.
Do you believe in cause and effect?
I assume you do, since you believe in matter and the laws of physics and that they are absolute. So what caused the big bang? What caused that? And that? You go into the same exact infinite regression that you do with god when you talk about "who created the creator". This is why I don't believe in any absolute statements unless they are proven 100%. (I prefer the string theory as well as far as the universe goes).