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Originally Posted by joecooool  the universe not being intelligent is the simpler self evident belief. |
It most definitely is not the simpler belief. Looking at the behavior of particles and then explaining that with the laws of entropy is not simpler than saying that there must be some kind of intelligence at work there.
It is also not self evident in the objective sense. You may claim it is, but your claim is a subjective point of view.
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so that makes it a guess as far as objective knowledge goes. i dont mind various guesses, ideas, etc.. i just dont like them claimed to be more then that.
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I can understand. You prefer to deal in absolutes, true and false, black and white... a younger me would likely have sympathized with that, but my experience has taught me the universe is actually painted in shades of gray.
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i just dont like people confusing objectivity and subjectivity.
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Don't we all...
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science gives us our objective knowledge.
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No it doesn't. Virtually all science is based on subjective observation and can therefor not be called truly objective.