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Originally Posted by fellowtraveler  Proven to whom? I've proved to myself that there is something more than meets the eye to this "reality". That's all that matters to me. Subjective? Yep, which renders "arguments" on both sides irrelevant. Your one-note (and that note has changed noticeibly during the discussion) thinking puts you neatly in a box. Someday it might be very painful to climb out of it. Close-mindedness is not anything to be proud of, junior. |
Ah, lay off the kid ... he's not comfortable with mystery. He thinks everything is totally quantifiable. Eventually if he doesn't pick and choose what parts of science he groks, even science will lead him to the truth that nothing is certain and we lack the equipment to detect all that there is to perceive and to fully comprehend WTF we can even perceive.
That stuff is hard on the ego ... give him some years to get his ego softened up. He'll come around.
--Bob ;-)