
03-04-2008, 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Steve Pavlina Desire, honesty, and creativity are all sub-elements of some of the principles, but I don't think any of these are the roots themselves. Desire and Honesty are titles of a couple subsections in the book.
In the book I have a subsection called Flow, which is basically the same as momentum, but it's not a root principle by itself.
Incidentally, Tony Robbins' 6 human needs (certainty, uncertainty, connection/love, significance, growth, and contribution) can all be derived from the 7 principles in my book (actually from just 4 of them). His model is a good stab, but it has some important gaps. For example, honesty/integrity doesn't necessarily emerge from this model (at least not very directly). Nor can you really derive his personal power and state manangement ideas from these 6 needs, not without really stretching them.
Tony's human needs model is also based on principles that inherently conflict with each other; he's totally upfront about that when he explains them. For example, certainty and uncertainty are opposites, pulling us in different directions. I found a great way to resolve this problem, revealing a place of alignment, not inner conflict. If a model is internally conflicted, I would say that means there are still deeper levels to be explored.
Even so... I think Tony's human needs model is brilliantly insightful and one of the best available. He definitely hit upon the most important pieces, and his principles are general enough to be universal and accurate enough to be practical. Unfortunately his model is a bit muddled because the concepts he picked aren't orthogonal to each other. They overlap in many ways (esp. significance and contribution), so it's not as elegant as it could be; it's neither irreducible nor collectively complete. | You know, I've totally missed that you where writing a book untill now but just with this single passage you've got me excited.
Job well done I guess. 
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