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Old 03-04-2008, 06:44 AM
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My initial and very preliminary prediction would be that the principles will be conceptually like the ones Tony Robbins' uses, but much more universal because, from what I've seen, Steve is better at seeing patterns then Tony is.

A big clue is where Steve mentioned that it would even apply to religions. For me, this means it probably has something to do with universal quests for certain qualities. Tony Robbins has a model very similar to this, but I don't feel it goes deep enough. It gets caught up in what I call "effect" logic. What that means is that you give a label to the "effect" created by a higher level "cause", and then mistake that "effect" for

It's like saying that obesity is an "effect" that needs to be fixed. Not so. Obesity is caused by lack of exercise and poor eating (yes, there are some exceptions, but those are extreme cases). You can try to fix obesity with pills and positive thinking, but if you keep fostering the conditions that let obesity flourish (lack of exercise) and feed your body with the wrong food, you'll make no progress. Address the "cause", and your "effect" is but a relic of the past, and your body will begin to reflect your new diet choices.

Granted, you could see your lack of exercise and diet choices as another "effect" (perhaps the "true" cause is a mindset thing, the LoA, or something else), but I was just giving an example.

Anyway, that's my thinking. Coming up with an actual model could be pretty difficult. I may give it a try the next time I feel contemplative.
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