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DayInTheLife · 02-25-2008, 07:29 PM

I can honestly say that spiritual experience under drugs is exactly 0,0%. Totaly false.

Are you relating only your own experience, or are you speaking for everyone?

Drugs is the poisoning of your body, and detaches your mind from your body from your spirit.

"Drugs = poison" is typical reductionist BS. The word drug represents thousands of unique substances, each of which have their own physical and psychoactive properties. As for "detaching your mind from your body from your spirit"; please cite a credible source for that or else we'll be forced to dismiss it as elitist mumbo-jumbo.

If you think "Mind Expanding substances" are not addictive at all, then why do you keep doing it, while it blows you off your socks.

I do a lot of things periodically; that does not constitute addiction. Am I addicted to changing my oil, buying socks, calling my grandmother?

Sorry to tell you dope heads this, but drugs give you a false experience, and is nothing spiritual at all. It is all physical, and disconnects you more then ever IMO.

There is nothing false or invalid about a drug experience. Perhaps you could explain how any experience can be 'false'. If the mind is a part of our body, then all experiences are ultimately physical. So what? Spirituality is subjective; if a 'spiritual' experience is achievable while sober, then such an experience is achievable while on a drug as well. Once again, psychedelic drugs do not alter reality, they alter perspective.

Calling us dopeheads speaks volumes about your personal biases on this particular issue, to say nothing of your maturity level.

02-25-2008, 07:29 PM	#20 (permalink)
DayInTheLife Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 252	I can honestly say that spiritual experience under drugs is exactly 0,0%. Totaly false. Are you relating only your own experience, or are you speaking for everyone? Drugs is the poisoning of your body, and detaches your mind from your body from your spirit. "Drugs = poison" is typical reductionist BS. The word drug represents thousands of unique substances, each of which have their own physical and psychoactive properties. As for "detaching your mind from your body from your spirit"; please cite a credible source for that or else we'll be forced to dismiss it as elitist mumbo-jumbo. If you think "Mind Expanding substances" are not addictive at all, then why do you keep doing it, while it blows you off your socks. I do a lot of things periodically; that does not constitute addiction. Am I addicted to changing my oil, buying socks, calling my grandmother? Sorry to tell you dope heads this, but drugs give you a false experience, and is nothing spiritual at all. It is all physical, and disconnects you more then ever IMO. There is nothing false or invalid about a drug experience. Perhaps you could explain how any experience can be 'false'. If the mind is a part of our body, then all experiences are ultimately physical. So what? Spirituality is subjective; if a 'spiritual' experience is achievable while sober, then such an experience is achievable while on a drug as well. Once again, psychedelic drugs do not alter reality, they alter perspective. Calling us dopeheads speaks volumes about your personal biases on this particular issue, to say nothing of your maturity level.