I probably didn't say that quite right either- I was sort of responding to earlier when you said that friends/family of someone who commits suicide would hurt more/differently than someone who died for other reasons- wondering how that could possibly be true and the only thing I could think was that the family would blame the person for not wanting to live/not valuing their life- and I was thinking that it's just a different degree but same idea as someone who smokes a lot of cigarettes and doesn't quit despite knowing the health risks and then dies prematurely of lung cancer- that they equally had different priorities than their personal longevity and the feelings of their family.
And you don't think there are situations where the death of one person is a really objectively a relief to another or many others? I can think of several local killing-sprees where the murderer committed suicide- I don't imagine that the people who survived because the murderer killed himself first are exactly complaining that the person shouldn't've killed himself... So sort of on a less-personal, less-willful way I feel like I'm the person with the machine gun and either I keep exploiting the rest of the world to stay alive or else I stop myself... or like a vampire who survives by sucking the blood from others... course that's just one side of things, I'm part of a huge pack of us, trying to do as little harm as I can, trying to stop my packmates from doing as much harm, not saying it is all negative, but it is an open question if some people would better off without my existence, and if their interests outweigh those I know personally who would miss me.
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