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Originally Posted by RT Wolf  I think everybody is reacting strongly to what cdn2wheeler said (he had a bit of an assertive style), but are missing the essential point:
He feels great now. I know that feeling, too, the feeling of knowing what the playing field looks like and exactly where the ball is. Much more clarity and simpler than this whole detachment/you dunno your beliefs/somin subconscious/etc business. If IM is indeed true, then this is a much, much better place to be manifesting from than doubt about whether your entire enterprise is faulty or not. I hope you will remember some of the lessons from your IM journey as worthy. Many/most of the individual parts of IM can be found in more traditional PD books, too, like Brian Tracy, Tony Robbins and the like. Perhaps, ironically, once you stop trying to use IM to influence the world, you will start influencing the world.
I felt a little like that when I realized that limiting IM to simply thoughts taking direct action is controlling the how, and I'm supposed to simply focus on what I want. And if I'm not willing to take actoin (ether I do or not is a different matter), then I don't really want whatever it is I'm intending for. So, my solution around the problem (and I PMed ALG about this a little while ago) is to allow intentions to manifest from all the routes, including my own physical action, subconcious action, synchronsity and whatever. Its all fair game, because the point is to get what I want.
If that's what works for you, great. I hope that your IM journey has been an interesting side-track on your journey of personal growth. And if there's some validity to the magical aspects of IM, I'm sure you'll discover them sometime in hte rest of your life, should you choose to remain in this path of PD. We're all going to live for a long, long time. |
RT, my friend, you nailed it spot-on. Very insightful. Next beer's on me.
And, yes, I suppose the style was a bit assertive. I make no apologies for that.
Look, here's the thing: ALG is right in the sense that actions follow thoughts. He's clearly defined the cause-effect (thought - action) when he writes:
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Originally Posted by ALG As a regular practitioner of LOA/IM, I do my IM and I also take action on my goals. Frankly I do not see how it could be otherwise. |
Exactly. ALG takes action to attain his desired result. That action flows from his thoughts. And without taking action, thoughts simply bounce around in our heads, tiny surges of chemical and electrical impulses in our brain that have little or no effect on the world outside the skull.
My point was that in order to attain a desired result, actions
must follow thoughts, which is exactly what ALG has outlined here. Thoughts alone are simply not enough. "The only consequence is what we do," which is why I wrote:
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We just have to do. We just have to make verbs out of our desires.
But without the verbs, we're dreaming. We're fantasizing. We're living in a world that doesn't really exist.
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Jeff3 makes a good point as well and it deserves some investigation. The catch-22 that he elucidates really goes to the foundations of the discussion. All I can share is my personal experience: that there's a direct correlation between what I do (or don't do) and the results I get (or don't get). But, alas, there is no correlation I've seen between my intentions
that aren't followed up by actions and what I get, regardless of how strongly I feel about it, how clearly I visualize it, how relaxed I am about it, how well I "release" it, or anything else.
In short, thoughts/intentions without actions do not lead to a desired result.
That's good, that's very good. It means that regardless of whatever's stewing in one's subconscious, or whatever some sort of "higher self" or "guardian angel" thinks (subject to the caveats in the original post) or whether the "universe" thinks one is ready for it or not, or that one is somehow doing it wrong, you can stack the cards in one's favour by taking action, by doing what's necessary to get the desired result.