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Old 11-26-2006, 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Radical View Post
I like your theory.

So really LoA is just a psychological trick?
Radical--not "just" a psychological trick, no...

This does bring an important point up.

In my opinion, psychology or "the mind" is just as physical as the body.

Why? Look at what we see as "physical"---the space between the molecules if you will, the relationship between energy and matter, as Acting Like Godot alludes to. And look at the fact that to produce thought, emotion, all that we connect with psychology, we need all kinds of physical stuff--cells, nerves, neurotransmitters, all kinds of other (physical) proteins to regulate how neurotransmitters effect the cells...

So, yes there's what we call psychology in there, as well as in most everything we do or experience. At the same time that psychology is just as "real" as anything you can see, and just as or oftentimes more powerful in the long run than physical stuff (like a chair, for example )

And if the "psychology" leads to actions and actions lead to outcomes, then it seems one is just as important as the other for that connection as well.

So, the way I think abt it, I leave out the "just"....

Acting Like Godot--what a great post, I don't know how one could say all that better!!

Yes, I also experience I-M very much like meditation, I'm a fan of both

Although you've said many great things here, I'd like to just comment on one of them... in connecting the effect of either meditation or I-M practice to calm down your monkey mind (to paraphrase).....

If any of us are able to create a world around us in which others easily and happily do something nice for us (my husband happily getting me a cup of coffee, for instance )...well, haven't we helped to create that situation with our own loving and giving actions? So doesn't that suggest that we have actually done more with our own actions than move our mouths and vocal cords?

In my opinion, this is the area of I-M and similar disciplines which is most important, most elucidative and longest lasting --learning from and using these disciplines to further peace, abundance, humor, consciousness, all the good stuff of life-- locally (starting right inside ourselves) and anywhere else we go or can have effect.

Great discussion, let it continue!

all best,
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