Ok. I see. I don't know if there are different spiritual planes (although I have heard of the idea and one of my bestest teachers, Ram Dass talks about them. I reserve judgement on that. If there are, I don't know which one this might be. I don't tend to think of things that way. I see what you mean, but I see 'dark' as always pointing back, if you understand what I mean, to lower planes maybe, and 'light' (love, outward flow of energy, as you put it) leading towards higher planes. I am tempted to believe, like Ram Dass, that all planes are 'here' together, and, although it may not be simple, we can migrate to higher ones now (and that fits with all this law of attraction stuff, surely?).
These kinds of ideas I think of as metaphors anyway. I am not a Christian, but I think this is what Christ meant when he said that the kingdom of heaven is within us. That is like another, perfect plane of reality, and it is within us in the sense of being accessible here and now through contemplative means. I don't know if these realms are real, or if they are just states of mind, but I get into that bliss quite often in meditation (and then, in fact, it is real, as real as normal waking life).
Opposite to that, the idea of hell can be equally thought of as here and now alongside heaven and normal Earthly life, and again, maybe the boundaries are less clear than we tend to think. If there are more levels, maybe that makes them easier to move across from one to another. Anyway, again, I'm not saying I believe in real spiritual planes, dimensions, levels, nor that I discount the idea.
I try to deal with what I know, and try not to take other views as truth until I've checked them out. I wonder whether you might have read or heard about these levels and been impressed by the view, and accepted them as real and this level as so separate from the others that we can't slide between them more easily. Of course, you may have checked the theory out, but then I wonder how you could do that without actually migrating to other levels, which would prove the theory wrong. I suppose you might have contact, and the nature of that contact included the knowledge that it was a realm out of reach of mortal humans in this 'Earth', ever, but it sounds unlikely that you could communicate with those levels or gain that kind of knowledge of the impossibility of migration.
Anyway, I wonder what made you sure enough to overturn your lighter views so completely. And I wonder whether these realms are time periods - do you mean that in some
future Earth things will be a different? Is this related to Aquarian stuff - end of Pisces and so on, or am I miles off? Sorry, I'm thick about all that stuff.
I go through phases, by the way, and I have some terrible black moods thinking about the state of the world. But over time this has impressed on me the living fact of plane-migration, the experience of seeing different 'levels' or dimensions - or just worldviews to put it more straightforwardly - because I can also switch my awareness, or sometimes I have to wait and then it gradually changes, and I see the world with wonder, love and joy. I had a real bad time, for instance, when I first saw Fahreinheit 911. No point in us bothering to try to change the world. It's too deeply ****ed already. But I am lucky enough that I have uplifting experiences, people show me love, I see massive amounts of love in the world (there are sooooo many relativelylightworkers) and a month later I'm thinking quite differently.
I wonder, when you were light-oriented, didn't you have a sense of the truth of the spiritual message that there's an infinite amount of energy here and now, and all we have to do is open ourselves to it? Have you changed your mind on that, or did you never believe it? I find it difficult to believe in conservation of energy when it relates to the spiritual.
Forgive me still trying to dig into you psyche and persuade you to consider different paths - I used to be a shrink, and the habit obviously dies hard. I'll shut up as soon as you wish me to, and I'm not implying that you're mad or need a shrink - no, that's a lie - I clearly think you're mad
, but I don't think you need a shrink; you decide what you need! And there would be quite a number of ex-colleagues would read what I write here and say I need one. I'm getting a lot out of it and learning a lot from you. Thanks.