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Old 01-27-2008, 03:17 PM   #23 (permalink)
Brutha
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I believe our beingness gives us all rights.
I'm speaking about legal rights.
The beingness of a dog also gives he dog certain natural rights but the dog has no legal standing to heard at a court when some goverment imprisons it.
To have that legal right you have to be a legal person.
Without legal rights you are in the state of nature where different properity claims (the goverment usually claims to own everything in their borders) get settled through war (the excercising of force through the goverment).
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The people in Guantamo are slaves, they have no rights. That's what life looks like when you give them all away.
So they are responsible for being imprisoned because they gave their rights away?
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The people in Guantamo are slaves,
To be a slave you need to have a master. Most of those who are imprisoned in Guantamo would see Allah as their master and not the US goverment.
The US goverment also doesn't claim such a master-slave relationship. It's war against people without legal rights.
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