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Originally Posted by wolfgang  Is Bill Gates a psychic that could pass that million dollar Randi? challenge? I guess I was thinking of the extreme case of a sage healer manifester avatar person and not the super stars that are in the public eye. |
There are two separate lines of discussion that are going on here - one is about James Randi, and the other is about millionaires.
For an outright example of "Sage healer meets Randi", simply google Matthew Manning and James Randi, and see what really happened.
For several YEARS in his earlier life, Matthew Manning willingly performed endless experiments for scientists in their labs, demonstrating a wide range of psychic abilities. None of them ever said, "Matthew is a fraud."
In fact, one of these scientists, Professor Brian Josephson, was a Nobel Prize winner for Physics who still lectures at Cambridge University, and was sufficiently inspired by Manning, from their meetings several decades ago, to continue to research telepathy etc.
But all Randi can say about Manning is, "He's a fraud, he's a fraud". Go google and see.
Randi isn't a scientist; he's won a Nobel Prize for nothing; he doesn't lecture at a world-class university; he hasn't conducted experiments with Manning in a science lab -
so on Manning, between Brian Josephson and Randi, it seems logical to me to believe Brian Josephson.
BUT in Randi's subjective reality, Manning probably IS a fraud - Randi's beliefs have manifested that.
As for Manning's reaction to Randi, well, google and see for yourself.
Now PERSONALLY speaking, if you were Jesus, would you go around:
(1) healing people and helping people; or
(2) performing tricks to engage and entertain Randi and other skeptics?
I know what
I would choose. I
may do some experiments with genuine scientists, especially those with an open mind and who aren't going all out to besmirch my reputation and paint me as a fraud, or a madman or whatever.
But clearly I wouldn't waste my time with Randi.
A million dollars? Poooi. People have a sense of integrity, you know. There are many ways to make that money without offending that sense of integrity.