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Originally Posted by Steve Pavlina In fact you are correct. I do believe I'm experiencing AP in my mind/consciousness and that it's probably just a projection of thought. Of course, this is how I interpret my physical universe experiences too.
I know it's more common to believe the physical universe is real and solid and the astral universe is a delusion. But I see no logical reason to make that distinction -- I've seen no evidence that this is so. It seems silly to draw the line there just because I appear to spend more time in the physical universe. Perhaps in the astral world I'm a very late sleeper.
I figure that if one universe may be a delusion, I must remain open to the possibility that the other is as well. I don't see how I could possibly conclude that one universe is real and solid but not the other.
My astral body is no more or less real to me than my physical body. They're just different forms. I don't have a strong preference between the two, although I do wish I was more competent with my astral body. Giving the command, "Float right, dammit!" hasn't been all that effective for me, but I'm gradually improving with practice.  |
I suppose you are right, it is logically impossible to deduce that one is more true than the other.
Still, I believe we as humans must, for emotional, evolutionary, and biological stability, grasp on to some form of truth, even a relativist position.
Is it possible that the astral plane is as real as our world? Yes, there's no way to disprove this, clearly. But, based on what we've experienced and what most of us think is true, is it more probable that our physical world is more real? I think so.
Some reasons: you must transcend this world to reach that one, where upon you return back to this one. Such experiences are a product of your mind which exists within this physical world.
You can deny these truths but you might as well say we're all in the matrix. To which I would say that, yes we are, and it's very very real to me. You could say the same about the astral plane but, as I've pointed to above, these ideas seem based within our physical world (ideas of demons, of floating, or "another world"). These ideas are a projection of our mind that exists in this world, even if you do transcend and reach another. Therefore, I believe this world has a high probability of bring primary to the astral plane.
My thoughts. I think it's hard to make any deductive statements about the nature of things. I think it makes more sense to say, based on certain criterion, that there are certain inductive truths that have a lot of credibility because most of us, if not all, agree on them.
I haven't met someone who is alive and doesn't not breath air.
There's no logical reason to believe I won't, because idealism says anything is possible, but its probably the case that I won't, as most humans have lungs that respire.
Again, just my thoughts. I feel like its impossible to transcend our perception, regardless of how crazy it may become.