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Old 01-13-2008, 11:28 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Who created God? Lets say we were created by God, and some even superior God created him. Now lets call the first God - God 1, and the second God, God 2. Now wouldn't it make sense that an even more superior God would have to create God 2? We'll call this God, God 3. So God 3 created God 2, and God 2 created God 1, and God 1 created us. And then, as you probably guessed, we would need another superior God to account for the creation of the third one. So, in a sense, we would require an endless amount of infinitely superior Gods to account for each of their creation, and ultimately our creation. IF we rejected that idea, we could come to the conclusion that some where along the line, a primitive consciousness arose from nothing. Perhaps we are that primitive consciousness?
Jennihul is right, the linear string of events you are imagining took place to create this world didn't happen that way at all. Do you know why light banishes darkness? It is because darkness can only exist relative to the light. It is subject to the light. You turn on the light and the darkness dissolves. In a way, you could sort of say the darkness is not real because of that. Now darkness has a purpose too -- it enhances our perception of the light. A light in a dark place is very noticeable.

Now the reason I go on and on about light and darkness is because our world is composed of dualities. An endless string of dualities, or dimensions, stretching in so many different or perpendicular directions it boggles the human mind. Time is also a dualist creation. Time flows forward -- that is, you percieve a linear sequence of events, with a beginning and an ending. But if you keep recognizing the dualities for the illusions they are, you will find the mysterious answer to your mysterious question. It might make sense to your conscious mind...or it might not.

The answer is this: nothingness does not exist. It is like darkness. It appears to exist, until light is present, and then it disappears. If nothingness DID exist, it would breach its own defined boundary and no longer be nothingness. The idea that nothingness can exist, is the basis for the idea that "beginnings" can happen. After all, how can something "begin" unless there was a state of potential, followed by a state of being? Consciousness is, for all rights and reasonable purposes, arguments, and conclusions, EXISTENCE. No reality exists that is not observed by consciousness. Observation gives validity to the world of form. Form could not exist without a witness. Because nothingness does not and cannot exist, all that exists is...........yeah ....EXISTENCE. Pretty basic, but there are subtleties involved that have profound implications.

You see, because nonexistence is not possible, there is no boundary placed on what exists and what does not exist. Because of this, all probabilities exist in consciousness. Nothing was ever created, and nothing can be destroyed completely, because existence cannot become less than what it is. What we term creation might better be termed "selective perception". It is like carving a face out of a block of wood. The face was already "in there", we just forgot everything that WASN'T the face. Get my drift? In the world we currently exist in, involving perceptions of portions, rather than wholes, we see what appears to be "lack" incarnate in the world of form. This sort of reality can only appear when you inhabit a reality where everything is relative to everything else. This world and all objects, forms, buildings, and art are all "cross-sections" through this higher continuum. They already existed, and we created an instance of them in specific/relative reality.

Were you to become fully aware of the light that you are, the darkness would simply vanish. It would no longer appear to exist. You would trascend the relative world of subject/object relationships and enter the absolute reality of oneness or existence. You would exist in omnipresence. You actually never left that reality. The reality you perceive now is an experience derived from intelligent infinity apprehending the concept of duality or separation. All this takes place outside of time as we know it. It has/is/will be "happening" forever. But as I said earlier, the darkness enhances and enriches the light, thus serving a valuable purpose. Also, there is joy to be found in growth, which is only possible in an dualist existence.

Questions are welcome.
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