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Old 01-12-2008, 01:28 PM   #36 (permalink)
John Freestone
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Hi Ballhit,

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I would offer the readers of this thread to try the following experiment:

1. Assume Steve Pavlina is doing this all for the money, and subsequently read the blog and see how you view it.
2. Assume Steve Pavlina is doing this all for the light, and subsequently read the blog and see how you view it.
3. Assume you are able to tell the difference between 1 and 2, and then read the blog.
I would offer a fourth optioin:
4. Try to stop making assumptions.

Steve's philosophy wouild itself seem to be strongly based on this last idea, challenging our assumptions so that our view becomes clearer. However, what happens time and again with 'lightworkers' or 'gurus' or whatever they're called is that the power and usefulness of their message builds up a kind of resistance to further challenge, or if you want to put it the other way, it develops more and more of a dogma; it becomes more apparently-solid and dependable than it is. Fans trust the teacher and stop bothering with number 4. It feels lovely to keep reinforcing 2 (and 3, which is also a dangerous assumption, and apparently is the delusion you suffer from).

A clever person like Steve can solve lots of problems. We like the answers. We're amazed we never thought of them and ask how he can do that. He says it's because he's rather clever, and he talks about how we can increase our own cleverness too because he cares about us growing. But before long we're coming to him with our problems because we know how clever he is, or he's doing extra homework to come up with answers to questions that might be raised later, and we're going home with those as well. All of this can make us less attentive, more dependent and stupider, which is something lightworkers often find very exasperating. However, some of them aren't as clever and attentive and awoken as they think, and they believe their own conclusions too much, and they don't reassess their pat phrases, so they too become entrenched in their role, defined by it. As they are human, they fear the end of their powerful position, or get carried away with their brilliance. One way or another, they start becoming less attentive, less flexible, more deluded.

The best ones, I would say, are acutely aware of the danger and constantly point it out. They ask others to challenge them relentlessly, and they take the pee out of themselves and work deliberately at climbing off their own pedestal. I haven't heard enough of Steve to know how much he does this, and it's for each listener to interpret the message; I just don't want people to sleepwalk, all the while chanting about how awake Steve's made them.

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