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Originally Posted by epetro  so you can agree that I-M approach to living has some practical borders? if so do you agree with existance of obective reality? |
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Originally Posted by epetro in quotation are presented three intention objects: wealth, soulmate and lost hand. imho they are not the same, and unlike first two the third couldnot be achieved with intentions, affirmations and other stuff like this. some strong belief divides third from others.
do you really tell someone who lost loved one not to accept reality and find purpose to live further but to change beliefs and prepare to meet that person in good health few days later? |
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Originally Posted by Frans Who dares to answer epetro's question: |
I somehow lost the message I was just typing.
I'm thinking that there may be a real question about whether to think about something from a theoretical or a practical perspective, or what mixture of the two.
Certainly there have been many things which are possible now, which would have been unheard of at some time earlier (flying or forums, for instance) Before the Wright Bros touched the sky, people thought we couldn't fly, and they thought that throughout many trials when W & O kept hitting the ground. Ten years ago, could we be doing this? Yes, I believe there's little reason to think we won't be able to "regrow" limbs one day, with the technological research going on now.
However, for someone who loses a hand on November 23, 2006, this is not immediately encouraging. That person, I believe, needs something else. Enter SamBeaven and others' thinking about the impact of insisting on a particular "how". Perhaps for the person who lost a hand, getting over a feeling of shock and hopelessness is one of the very first thing needed. Perhaps a plan for, say a marriage or a career looks in danger.
When you think about how people handle various things, it's really amazing. I know someone who lost both arms above the shoulder when he was a kid, in an explosion. This fellow, now in his 40's, has two mechanical arms and he does everything. On hot days he just wears the metal. On cooler days he has the whole gear on with a jacket, etc. I take care of his dad and on at least one occasion, without a moment's hesitation, I just reached out to shake his hand at the end of a visit and, well we shook hands, with sort of a lopsided grin on both our faces as we both realized what had just happened. So, how would we even know what an individual person would need after such a life altering event? Some of what they'd want or need would probably have to wait for advances in technology. Some, possibly, unbelievably more important things may well be possible, but take a huge amount of intention-manifestation practice to accomplish.
Does this make sense to anyone?
PS I'm not clear on subjective vs. objective reality. I think of that much more metaphorically than it is often talked about. That is, I think everyone has their own inner world, perceptions of themselves, others and the world they live in. That seems a good description of subjective reality. If everyone has a subjective reality like that, then I can't say that they don't exist except in my own mind. I guess, in answer to one question posted here, I'd have to believe in both and without either reality cancelling out any other reality. That makes the most sense to me. That can be challenging enough, no?
All best,
Ati