[Acting Like Godot]

Originally Posted by wolfgang

Sounds like a contradiction what you wrote. Mixing up LoA and peak experience - and then saying peak experience gives profound insights to LoA. Can't be both mixing up and insightful.

As you prefer. If you insist that they are separate and distinct and shed no light on each other, then this only means that your earlier post is meaningless.

Personally I think that the peak experience does offer insights into LOA (although that is hardly the most important feature of a peak experience). The peak experience offers insight into LOA, because the peak experience gives you a sense of the interconnectedness of all things.

If you have that sense of the interconnectedness of all things (I believe you had used the word "oneness"), then you see experientially, how your thoughts can potentially affect anything (since all things are interconnected).

The memory of a peak experience is not just a memory. It's a life changing thing. It does stay with you in your bones. Just like falling in love changes you. I know there is more to life than our ego and habitual thoughts. If I was wanting to be Christian it would probably be like what they call a conversion.

Let me explain it by using the analogy of a near-death experience. The near-death experience is also "life-changing" and people who have had undergo personality changes for the better etc.

However, as they go about their daily lives, these people are no longer still having a near-death experience; their brain is not dead; they aren't lying on a hospital dead; they aren't seeing a bright light at the end of the tunnel; they do not feel that they are floating out of their bodies etc.

I don't know what you mean by plain old LoA - what happened to the idea that LoA is always in effect? There are not degrees of LoA working or not.

It is always in effect. Unlike a peak experience, or a near-death experience.

You have to understand that in my earlier post, I was drawing a distinct impression between conscious creation - such as the deliberate attempt to use the LOA to manifest certain effects - and unconscious creation (or what Abraham refers to as "creation by default")

My argument was that according by MI theory, some people will hold natural advantages over others in conscious creation. This essentially is no different from any other kind of activity. According to MI theory, for any kind of activity (whether solving crossword puzzles, or playing a musical instrument, or kicking a ball, or reading a map), there will be some people will hold natural advantages over others.