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Old 12-26-2007, 02:36 PM   #49 (permalink)
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I agree that intention-manifestation and The Secret are all hogwash with earflaps. (I have a very foul mouth and I'm working on it.) They are based on an ignorance of how the world works. In physics negatives attract positives and vice versa. The yin-yang symbol is much more indicative of the real world than the medieval sympathetic magic of "if I think about it, it will drop in my lap."

There is an objective reality out there that has nothing to do with us. It is our duty to use our brains to comprehend that reality and learn how it works. It will completely ignore any amount of wishful thinking we engage in.

And I don't see Steve ignoring objective reality in his essays, though I haven't read his intention-manifestation material yet. You have decide what you want in life and make goals and action plans. But then you have to get up off the couch and work for what you want. THAT will cause things to manifest, not just wishing for it or "asking the universe" for it. The universe isn't standing around waiting to take your order. If anybody tells you it is, take a deep breath. That scent is the smell of snake oil.
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You have decide what you want in life and make goals and action plans. But then you have to get up off the couch and work for what you want. THAT will cause things to manifest, not just wishing for it or "asking the universe" for it. The universe isn't standing around waiting to take your order.
Perhaps, but no amount of arguing is going to convince you otherwise...

You're absolutely right, for you (and the others who agree with you).
Truths are individual, there is no right or wrong for anyone... While what you say is true for the non-believers, what Steve, ALG, impaul99, myself, cylon and others says is true for the believers. This is based on experiences, not just wishful thinking as you put it...

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If anybody tells you it is, take a deep breath. That scent is the smell of snake oil
The way I see this being true, is only if they're trying to sell you something.
I don't sell anything related to PD (personal Development), I'm just looking for my truth in what reality is... Just because I haven't experienced something that Steve or anyone else suggests as a reality, doesn't NOT make it true, the only thing that would be true in their suggestion is that I haven't experienced it yet... But here's the thing, I have experienced or caught "glimpses" of my thoughts being directly connected to the external events in which I refer to as reality.

Look,
I have had experiences that to me are quite unexplainable (telepathy being one of them) and yes, some are really out there.

Some people here in the USA believe that we have the greatest medical community in the world, even though they're not actually curing many diseases (yet they still believe it)... Why...? Perhaps they see something that I don't currently see yet (perhaps that's the snake oil you refer to)... The rates of curing cancer are spotty at best, some get cured and some don't... Yet, some consciously get LOA to work and some don't, based on what I'm observing...

But, your implication that I'm gullible is offensive... So I have the choice, I can believe what Steve suggests or because you think your absolutely right well I must believe you then (because you're always right aren't you... Yes you are, you're always right) and those who don't believe you are wrong, aren't they...
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