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Sam988 · 12-16-2007, 05:38 PM

oakspringer, what if there is actually no "divinity" or "other choice" for our awareness to endure, other than remaining alive in our physical bodies? About what you said about enjoying life, i agree 100%. If someone doesn't want to stay alive for 80 years, he will obviously not want to live longer. But for those who find life amazing and don't want it to end, they should have the option of staying alive and only dying when they get tired of it.

bdavis, exactly. Damn, only some 80 years of life? That's horrible.

The Adventurer, there's a logical flaw in your comment. You see, there are no "others", unless they're born. So by not making anyone new come to this plante, we are not "blocking the way" of anyone, because there ISN'T anyone (unless you believe spirits and reincarnation, but you said in the beggining of your post that "you have no reason to believe that consciousness can remain after death). So your logic is a bit flawed here.

We only give birth to new beings because we die. You're culturally wired to believe that not having children is the same as "not giving place for the new ones to come", when the only reason the "new ones" come is because we die. If we don't die, there's no reason to make copies of us. Which is what childs are, copies of the ones that came before them.

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Sam988 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,189	oakspringer, what if there is actually no "divinity" or "other choice" for our awareness to endure, other than remaining alive in our physical bodies? About what you said about enjoying life, i agree 100%. If someone doesn't want to stay alive for 80 years, he will obviously not want to live longer. But for those who find life amazing and don't want it to end, they should have the option of staying alive and only dying when they get tired of it. bdavis, exactly. Damn, only some 80 years of life? That's horrible. The Adventurer, there's a logical flaw in your comment. You see, there are no "others", unless they're born. So by not making anyone new come to this plante, we are not "blocking the way" of anyone, because there ISN'T anyone (unless you believe spirits and reincarnation, but you said in the beggining of your post that "you have no reason to believe that consciousness can remain after death). So your logic is a bit flawed here. We only give birth to new beings because we die. You're culturally wired to believe that not having children is the same as "not giving place for the new ones to come", when the only reason the "new ones" come is because we die. If we don't die, there's no reason to make copies of us. Which is what childs are, copies of the ones that came before them. __________________ All that matters is results.