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Old 12-12-2007, 09:40 PM   #44 (permalink)
Brien
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Originally Posted by Rosie View Post
... Many girls prefer to form a friendship first, before they commit to relationship. ...
I don't doubt that this is possible. But, in my experience (direct and observed), most romantic relationships spring from a mutual romantic interest from day one. If "many girls" want to call the first stages of a romantic relationship "a friendship" I suspect it is because they are just reluctant to admit that they can be attracted to someone romantically (and therefore sexually) before really knowing them.

Regardless what you call it, Dennis, you need to open a channel of communication with the women you're interested in. Don't worry about "the friendzone", just open up with affection and expect to receive affection in return. If it doesn't happen, then she's not interested. Don't get hung up on words. She can call it friendship or something else, and regardless, those terms don't communicate anything. Pay attention to how she treats you, how she responds to you.

To phrase what I mean in different terms:
You have no reason to be needy. Be generous (interpersonally, not in terms of cash), and expect an equal investment from her. If it's anything less, then move on. Ever hear of "intellectual whores"? Refuse to be one. That's probably what happened when you thought you were "friends" with these women you pursued.

That's why I say the word "friendship" coming from a woman to describe your relationship with her is meaningless.
1. You could actually be in the developing stages of a romantic relationship,
2. you could be her intellectual whore,
3. or (of course) you could be in an actual friendship (same as a romantic relationship in that there is equal input, just no romantic interest from either party).

Put yourself out there Dennis. Respect yourself and give what you want to get back. There will be no confusion about what she wants if she doesn't reply in kind.
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