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Question1: Why do you assume that everyone in the world who wants to make money and be fulfilled has to 'provide value to others'?
I don't assume that. This post specifically espouses a lightworker philosophy. While I'm perfectly accepting of other philosophies, I'm not as interested in teaching them because I find them unsound, either from one perspective or another. For example, the non-contributor mindset may look OK subjectively, but it's objectively unsound. In other words if everyone on earth adopted a non-contributor mindset vs. a contributor mindset, which would make the planet a better place to live? That itself is a subjective question, but having experienced both mindsets for myself, I'd much rather experience the contributor world. Consequently, that's the model I choose to teach.

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Question2: Have you ever made money and felt fulfilled, without providing value to others?
Not after making the decision to polarize. Before polarizing I would have said yes. However, what I once labeled as fulfillment was more of an emotional addiction in my opinion. Today it feels more like being "filled" by spirit or energy or some other positive force. It's similar to confusing infatuation with unconditional love. Fulfillment (as I define it today) is more like the latter than the former. It's a feeling of an energetic flow rather than an emotion.

Also, providing value didn't "cause" the experience of fulfillment. Both were a natural consequence of aligning my thoughts and actions in a certain direction. You could say that providing value in the physical world is merely a manifestation of that alignment.

What provides the most value to others, in my opinion, is who you become when you're fully aligned. I could say that my writing provides value, but the writing came about after I became a certain kind of person on the inside.

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Question3: When the person writes "I’ve posted hundreds of articles on my blog, and I keep adding stuff every week." in his question to you, why do you assume that he is not providing value with all those articles he is writing?
I don't assume that either. People tell me this is what's holding them back. This was a composite example based on much longer emails I've received over a period of many months. I tried to keep the example short and simple.

I find that such bloggers often suffer from being out of touch with their own sense of value. They post links to other blogs or rehash ideas others have already written instead of sitting down to share their own truths and ideas. For example, if I ask them, "What's the worst thing that ever happened to you?" or "What was your most difficult life lesson?" 9 times out of 10 they won't have come close to sharing anything like that in their blogs. If I ask them why, the answer is usually fear.

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Question4: Do you think it's possible that this person is providing lots of value, but the reason he/she is unable to make money has nothing to do with that? Like, I don't know... maybe a belief like "Money is the root of all evil." is blocking him/her? Or perhaps, "Money is difficult to manage." etc?
Not exactly -- we have to separate the concept of abundance from the substance of money. I notice you often tie those together, but I prefer to keep them separate.

Making money isn't particularly important (at least to me). Money is just one of many ways more interesting things can manifest. If you have negative beliefs about money but are in tune with your value and with the concept of abundance, you'll find plenty of other ways to manifest abundance. I think I could enjoy a very abundant lifestyle without any money at all, although it would take on a different form.

On the other hand, if you equate money with abundance and are out of sync with your own value, then you'll likely hold yourself back quite a bit. Whether you have money or not, it won't feel abundant to you because you won't have clear access to the source of real abundance.

In my experience limiting beliefs about money are rarely the core issue. I know millionaires who practically scorn the notion of money altogether, but they have no financial scarcity and they enjoy what they're expressing in other areas.

Personally I don't recall meeting someone who's held back by negative beliefs about money who isn't also totally out of touch with their inner value. But I've met plenty of people who seem fairly free of negative money associations but who aren't enjoying abundance -- financial or otherwise.

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Question5: Do you think that the only way to make an income stream legally, morally and in alignment with your true self is by providing value to other human beings? I don't mean for you, that answer is obvious, but I mean for every human on earth.
What is an income stream? An income stream is nothing but a flow of social debt to you.

Is it legal to acquire social debt without expressing your deepest value to others? Obviously.

Is it moral? That depends on your morals. I doubt most people would have a problem with it though, but the later spending of that social debt may feel rather hollow if you sense you provided little or nothing for it. However, that also depends on your morals and values.

Is it in alignment with your true self? There I must answer no, but not for the reason this question begs me to assume. By definition your value IS your alignment with your true self. This question has a very muddled context because you're mixing non-physical and physical constructs in the same sentence. You imply that value transfer is something that occurs at the physical level, while I see it as a non-physical transfer. I think any value transfer at the physical level is merely a projection of what's happening at the non-physical level. So within that context, I must answer no. Within your original context I can't really answer the question at all because that context is too muddled for the question to have the same meaning.

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For example, what if I wanted to provide value to make money because it is quite a common and easy way to do it, but after deep meditation and connection with my true self I was pulled and directed to simply eliminate certain beliefs about the lack of abundance with money, and then directed to spend the next 10 years of my life perfecting my martial arts skills at home by myself, without providing any value to anyone else, yet almost like magic money began flowing to me from different sources as soon as I aligned with my "path" and eliminated whatever was blocking me?
If money is all you're after, you needn't create or share value at all. An accomplished darkworker could train you to become even better at that.

I cannot assist you in this area because your statements register as false to me. You're taking the physical construct of money, projecting it onto the non-physical, and giving it your power. That will lead you down a rather dark path IMO. This will corrupt your understanding of limiting financial beliefs, and you'll end up fighting with some of those beliefs that may in fact be important truths to you. It's your choice to pursue that path of course.

Consider reflecting on the idea that you can experience total abundance and fulfillment with no money at all. If you see that as possible, what roles would value and alignment play then?

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As you can see, my biggest disagreement here flows from the assumption that providing value to others is the ONLY way to make money morally, legally, and in true alignment with ones true self. If your true self guides you in that direction, then great, I totally agree, but what if it doesn't? Is a person then crap-out-of-luck to live a life of poverty?
This particular guidance isn't coming from your true self IMO. What does your true self need with money? What does God need with a Starship?

When we bring fear (such as your above stated fear of poverty) into our meditations, we receive fear-based guidance. Now even fear-based guidance can be physically effective (meaning that it can produce a desired result); however, that result will only further reinforce the fear that spawned it.

It's good you are building skill at manifesting. It sounds like you're doing a great job at building your power. It's also good that you're working to eliminate blocks and negative beliefs that limit your power. Now what will you do with that power? What guides it? Love or fear? Truth or falsehood? Do you use your power only to serve your ego? Or do you use it for the highest good of all?
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