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suicidaldude · 11-16-2007, 05:51 PM

Well, my tone was probably not the most respectful (to say the least), so I apologize.

However, with oil howering right under 100$ a barrel, world production having peaked and no end in sight to the war in the middle east, if a solution there was to be, I believe we'd be working overtime on it already, and it should already have a 10% marketshare worldwide. The reason why we are not seeing it is, IMO, that there is no alternative.

Algaes does seem to be the best solution, but look 1 or 2 years ago, everyone but the doomers said that ethanol was the future. The peak oil doomers all said that ethanol would 1) not solve any energy shortages and 2) create a food shortage. And here we are 2 years after, and guess what ? ethanol 1) did not solve any energy problem and 2) are starting to create a food problem. The doomers were right.

The same will be true with algaes IMO, they could look like a solution now but in a very short time they'll probably look like yet another problem too.

As for the stable decline, why did it not occur after any national peak ? Even the US production curve, which was pretty conventional, showed 2-3% annual decline. Mexico is losing 8% a year, the UK 12%. Why would a world decline be the ONLY peak curve not to follow that rule ? What is your scientific/theoric argument for that ? In a world with our laws of physics, I don't see your "sustainable peak" last more than a few years at best.

As for the population crash, well, before oil, there were 1.5 billion people on earth. That means that without oil, at least 5 billion people will have to die. Now factor in the soil erosion and loss of nutrients, the environmental degradation, global warming and the potential resource wars, and you end up with an armaggeddon that'd make the Christian Rapture lokk like a mild hangover for humankind. And peak oil does that with only fool-proof theory and scientific arguments. In my vision of things, 80% of humankind dying off could even look pretty conventional. More in the 95% figure, if you ask me.

Anyway, given the current news reports, I am confident that life will prove me right. And that I'll have a shot at the Void (a little side-deal).

11-16-2007, 05:51 PM	#52 (permalink)
suicidaldude Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 52	Well, my tone was probably not the most respectful (to say the least), so I apologize. However, with oil howering right under 100$ a barrel, world production having peaked and no end in sight to the war in the middle east, if a solution there was to be, I believe we'd be working overtime on it already, and it should already have a 10% marketshare worldwide. The reason why we are not seeing it is, IMO, that there is no alternative. Algaes does seem to be the best solution, but look 1 or 2 years ago, everyone but the doomers said that ethanol was the future. The peak oil doomers all said that ethanol would 1) not solve any energy shortages and 2) create a food shortage. And here we are 2 years after, and guess what ? ethanol 1) did not solve any energy problem and 2) are starting to create a food problem. The doomers were right. The same will be true with algaes IMO, they could look like a solution now but in a very short time they'll probably look like yet another problem too. As for the stable decline, why did it not occur after any national peak ? Even the US production curve, which was pretty conventional, showed 2-3% annual decline. Mexico is losing 8% a year, the UK 12%. Why would a world decline be the ONLY peak curve not to follow that rule ? What is your scientific/theoric argument for that ? In a world with our laws of physics, I don't see your "sustainable peak" last more than a few years at best. As for the population crash, well, before oil, there were 1.5 billion people on earth. That means that without oil, at least 5 billion people will have to die. Now factor in the soil erosion and loss of nutrients, the environmental degradation, global warming and the potential resource wars, and you end up with an armaggeddon that'd make the Christian Rapture lokk like a mild hangover for humankind. And peak oil does that with only fool-proof theory and scientific arguments. In my vision of things, 80% of humankind dying off could even look pretty conventional. More in the 95% figure, if you ask me. Anyway, given the current news reports, I am confident that life will prove me right. And that I'll have a shot at the Void (a little side-deal). __________________ ___________________________ "Almighty" compared to what?