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Originally Posted by Acting Like Godot  Exactly - that is what I have been saying. Observation is key to reality. |
That may be what you're saying, but it's not what the theories (except CCC) state. That's what I'm saying. Observation is the key to understanding reality, but it's not certain that observation determines reality.
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Originally Posted by Acting Like Godot This is plainly incorrect. For instance, I know of events at the subatomic level which caused the massive breakdowns of 2 much larger, more complicated, and highly observable macro systems.
The 2 much larger, more complicated systems and highly observable systems were known as Hiroshima and Nagasaki. |
Nuclear fission is not a quantum effect. It's explainable through purely classical laws. What I was referring to was quantum entanglement, etc...
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Originally Posted by Acting Like Godot If you prefer less dramatic examples of quantum events producing effects observable at the macroscopic level, you can, for example, google "Sayantani Ghosh" and "macroscopic" and see for yourself. Or click here: The weirdest link |
...which I was wrong about. Hmm. Obviously I don't want to let go of my current understanding
...but I will if people continue to demonstrate how it's wrong.
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Originally Posted by Acting Like Godot If however you would like to know about a peer-reviewed, double-blind experiment demonstrating thought affecting matter, I would refer you to Professor Dean Radin's successful replication of Masaru Emoto's "thoughts affect the molecular structure of water" experiments (Radin's experiment being conducted under much more tightly controlled scientific expriments. |
Yeah I've seen that before. I still can't find any citations of that piece of research, nor do I have access to the full text (though I just emailed Dean). Considering that the controls were in California and the treated samples were in Tokyo, it's a safe bet the conditions in which they were kept were not identical. Of course they could have been identical, though at the least that would involve identical cooling systems (or sealed containers), identical temperatures (and temperature changes, if any), and identical sources of water.
Also, an easy way to determine if the differences were a result of the 2000 people "treating" the samples, would have been to do two sets of shots of the crystals. The first set without any treatment. If there was a difference between the Tokyo and California crystals then, well, obviously something else is going on.
Hopefully the paper clears up those questions.
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Originally Posted by Acting Like Godot You may also wish to consider the following:
1. Thinking generates electrical impulses in your brain
2. Electrical impulses means the movement of subatomic particles (electrons) in your brain
3. Quantum entanglement clearly indicates that the movement of each such electron in your brain will instantaneously affect every other subatomic particle which each such electron has ever collided with, since such electron came into existence (never mind that the other subatomic particle is now on the other side of planet earth or the solar system). |
Clearly indicates? No, that's an interpretation of quantum theory and the results of some experiments. I'm not aware of any clear indication that it actually happens.
From the article, referring to everything being entangled:
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Of course, that is no guarantee we can use them. Reznik says he doesn't think you can take his vacuum entanglement and use it to perform feats such as teleportation. Indeed, he is not even sure how to demonstrate that this entanglement exists. Though the equations of quantum field theory show that it is present, he is still working out how to perform an experiment that makes vacuum entanglement more than a theoretical result.
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