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Originally Posted by Mr.Mustache  Cause and effect is product of linear time. If time is infinite then it is impossible to trace back any line of cause and effect. Lets say space was infinite, I could divide space infinitely so how could motion exist? You couldn't move through space because you could divide any distance an infinite number of times. Most if not all scientists agree that space-time is finite. If the big crunch happened infinitely it would not be the same universe being rolled out and in over and over, each would be its own finite universe even if they ended in cycles.
I think what you are doing here is discovering by rational means that our finite space-time universe is an illusion of a much bigger picture. Contemporary physics already validates this to some degree. What is the bigger picture? Perhaps it is the astral plane? |
First of all, your first paragraph, nice to hear that fact. I'd just like to point out that I am in no way trying to defend or prove an infinite universe so that no one will make that assumption
I am just seeing how it should be like from both views, i.e. a finite, vs an infinite universe. Quite frankly I have little hope in the infinite universe. But, also, I find it awkwardly amusing that people won't accept a finite universe either
But hopefully we will soon realize how the finite universe must be structured like, so please notice the "it must exist"-theory, I find it viable, and valid (no matter if it is "the truth" or not, whatever).
Second paragraph; yes, exactly, rational thought.
My up-to-date largest school-assignment ever- I will be focusing on trying to explain the universe from a scientific, logical, and philosophical way. It will be exciting. This is a useful conversation/arguing for me. The more we disagree with each other the closer we will get to see what works and what doesn't.
Like my first post in this thread acknowledges, maybe the astral plane DO have something to do with this. Interesting
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Originally Posted by Sir Mustache Also, when I say consciousness is not a mechanism or that god doesn't need an explanation (in the usual meaning of word at least) I mean the same thing. That is when I see the color blue I cannot explain what it is like to see the color blue. You can't explain sight to blind man. You cannot break down the sensation of the color blue to anything less than the color blue. The concept of god and conscious awareness go hand in hand. If god is a conscious force then such an entity doesn't require an explanation typical to a physical object because its like the sensation of music or the color blue ie you have to experience it. |
If we want to get into the definition of things.. Likewise, nothing cannot be observed nor experienced - it simply doesn't exist. This is a strong argument for me why nothing cannot have existed (so to speak, it gives: something must exist).