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Old 10-24-2007, 02:20 AM   #112 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by tekomino View Post
I'd say you are observing not imagining... Another thing to note about dreaming, did you notice that only things and people you've known before you felt a sleep manifest there?

Thats like a chicken and egg problem. If I know it is outside, it is within automatically, no?

But the fact alone that we can have this conversation, that you and me do not share same memories and experience proves that something does exists outside your own mind. Unless I tell you my memories you don't know what they are...
I have lots of dream characters that don't exist in the physical world. Erin does too. In a lucid dream, we can even create fresh characters from scratch just by materializing them. They needn't have physical counterparts.

During a dream (lucid or otherwise), I can have a conversation with a dream character and not know what the character will say in advance or what memories it will claim to possess. Does that prove the dream character exists independently of my mind? Would you assume the dream character possesses its own memories that I'm not aware of, or is it just a simulation of sorts? Why should the physical world be any different?
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