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Originally Posted by Steve Pavlina  Understood by whom? By you? By me? By some other projection of your mind? For laws of physics to be understood, some conscious being must be there to understand them. And that's an inherently subjective experience. |
Don't confuse the laws of physics with the way I perceive them. They are two separate things. I perceive them subjectively in my own way, but when multiple subjective perceptions by others (humans) are correlated, cohesive picture emerges which we call the law. And how do I know there are others out there? Read on...
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Originally Posted by Steve Pavlina Are you aware that your entire understanding of reality exists only in your mind? And that what you think of as objective reality is nothing but your own mental projection? It's imaginary. Make believe. |
Of course my understanding of reality is in my own mind and is my only. However, it is not based on imaginary and make believe. It is based on observation of actual physical behavior that is outside of me. How do I know that everything is not fiction and made up by my mind? Because world keeps to exists when I stop paying attention to it.
Try this experiment. Take an envelope and place the letter inside of it that promises the bringer of the letter $10,000 if he brings it back to you. Lock this letter in random time delayed box that you ship across the country to busy Starbucks. Timer opens the box randomly any time between 1 and 30 days.
If reality is all make believe and things don't exists when you stop paying attention to them, nobody will show up to claim your money...
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Originally Posted by Steve Pavlina Can you prove that any conscious being aside from you actually exists here? That would seem to be a necessary first step if you're going to argue that anyone is capable of understanding anything here other than yourself. Otherwise whenever you bring up the "laws of physics," you're really just talking about your own subjective version of those laws, which only exist in your mind. |
So why this blog then if nobody aside of you exists? Are you trying to just understand yourself? Why did you start forums? To talk to yourself?
Once I witnessed the person experiencing delirium tremens. One of the common symptoms include intense hallucinations such as visions of insects, snakes or rats. This person started "seeing" giant spiders on the walls attacking him. 3 of us in the room have not seen them. 5 minutes after, episode passed, and person stopped seeing spiders.
Whats the point of the story? Mind is a powerful thing. It can make you see things that are not there and make them very real "to you" (subjective). That does not mean they actually exist...
I completely agree that understanding that our perceptions of reality are subjective is extremely powerful. From standpoint of personal development especially. However, subjective perception does not in any way change the actual event that perception is based on.