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Originally Posted by cdn2wheeler  Leaving aside the whole "artist" thing for a moment - because I can't paint or draw to save my life - the point I was trying to make is that something like astral projection could be provable if the people who make those claims would actually go about proving it.
But they refuse.
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Well, as far as I'm informed, science is not able to measure such phenomena yet. So, what would you accept as a proof, tell me?
I told you about my experience, you said "it's anecdotal". Well then, can you scientifically explain to me how I did know that the hedge was missing, if I wasn't really out of my body? I guess you'll invoke some coincidence, or you'll come with some complicated theory about my brain changing my memory of the event later...
My point is, no matter what you're told, you'll find some explanation to dismiss what you don't want to hear. How do you want them to prove something science cannot measure with instruments and you are not willing to hear in the first place?
I can understand people who don't want to waste their time and energy trying it.
edit: Why do you believe only in what science can prove? There was a time where science wasn't able to measure electromagnetic waves or explain how they work or even prove their existence either. You think our science now is much better? pah! In 200 years they'll be laughing at today's science.