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Old 10-17-2007, 04:32 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Success is the positive outcome in the way we wanted. That is the success.
Yes, but how do you define a positive outcome? By what you want? Then the positivity of the outcome is purely subjective, and so the perceived success is also subjective. Is there any way to prove, in an objective fashion, that a particular outcome is desirable?

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On the otherhand, you decided to drop out of school, because of financial reason or other reason that you will not get the degree. It is a failure, because you do not get a degree.
Again, what objective scale can be used to define the "goodness" or "badness" of not getting a degree? I can't think of one. All a degree does is says that you have this or that knowledge, but you'd have that knowledge without the degree. So the degree is just an imperfect subjective representation of the knowledge that you supposedly have gained in college. Maybe it says that you're really smart, maybe it says you know how to butter up the professors, maybe it says that you're a good cheater. It proves nothing, it's just an idea that has been created by people, and for some reason has replaced the objective pursuit of knowledge as the goal of school. So instead of going to school for useful knowledge that can be used to further interact with the universe, you go for a letter grade and a piece of paper that really has nothing to do with reality.
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