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Old 10-08-2007, 10:54 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Mr.Mustache View Post
Not true. There have been many ESP experiments that show evidence that such phenomena exists. Examples: The Ganzfeild Experiment, Clairvoyant Dream experiments, Pearce-Pratt experiments, Sense of Being Stared at experiments and others.

These experiments alone show something weird is going. Does mainstream science care? No. It conflicts with there basic assumptions.

So, even if Erin did those experiments and they actually gained recognition (not likely) she and the scientists involved would be harshly criticized. Not lifted up on the shoulders of objective scientific research.
I can't speak for the Ganzfield, clairvoyant dream or Pearce-Pratt experiments, but I did wade though Sheldrake's "sense of being stared at" work.

Sheldrake's methodology isn't even close to being called reputable science, which is why it isn't taken seriously.

And even if there was something "weird" going on, that doesn't mean for a moment that it's supernatural. It just means that we don't understand it. To draw a straight line between something we don't understand and supernatural phenomena isn't rational. I personally don't understand how electricity works, but that doesn't mean it's particularly weird.

That's not to assume that there isn't something supernatural going on. It's just that we can't automatically leap to that conclusion everytime something happens we don't understand.

*edited to add*

I just did a quick Google search on Pearce-Pratt experiments. Seems that proper double-blind protocol wasn't used, and both Pratt and Rhine (one of the investigators) were already believers. A 1960 research project about the P.P. experiments showed that there was ample opportunity for errors - however unintentional - to creep into the process. There's a brief look at it here.

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