[JohnR]

Actually I agree with much of what you are saying. The real experience of entering a state of total awareness (call it oneness, or enlightened state or whatever) is one of, no desire. The concept of love doesn't exist in that state. There is only existence, and you are it. Everything all at once. There are no words to aptly describe this. "you'd have to be there" as the saying goes :-)

I haven't read your past posts, so I don't know what you explained then. I was just picking up on something I felt from your words. Perhaps it is because I have been at both extremes in life myself -- disconnected and in pain as well as the state I mention above. It's amazing how powerfully we can move ourselves deeper into the pain you refer to. If a person is fortunate enough to have entered a state of total awareness on occasion, they find that it brings gifts to them, and yet despite the power of this, many, I included, let it go at times, drawn by the power of the emotional illusions we immerse ourselves in.

I believe that understanding, which in a sense is dispassionate, is on a higher level than what we commonly refer to as love. But what are words really? Reality doesn't care how we define and confine it. It is always bigger than our definitions. One has to talk around this subject, yes?

Best,
John