[Mr.Mustache]

Originally Posted by Sam988

Erin, this is your lucky day. Scientists recreate out-of-body experience - CNN.com
Science has been able to induce people to have these so called "OBEs". It already catched up with you advanced people that experience this phenomenon. And, not surprisingly to me, the result is always the same. A trick played by our minds.

It's not the first time that as soon as science "catches up" with unexplainable phenomenons, it dismitifies it. The one example that comes to my mind is the epileptic, in the times of Jesus, whom the bible told us was "possessed by demons".

I'm sure, Erin, you can come up with some more examples of phenomenons that are "too advanced" for science to catch up with. Of course, just because science hasn't been able to dismistify or test or measure these phenomenons, doesn't mean that they are real (neither that they're unreal, but until now, every single phenomenon that science "catched up" with, has been dismistified).


I would like to know about those experiments that Erin said to have happened, if someone who actually studied OBEs, before believing it without any proof, could share some links with me about successful experiments, i'd enjoy that.


I also would like to know why no "astral traveller" (at least they have a nice name) has yet been able to claim Randi's 1 Million Challenge (James Randi - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia). As cdn2wheeler said, it's easy to prove it, just make the experiment that cdn2wheeler suggested, and no scientist and no James Randi could deny it. Something so simple, but appearently complicated to the so called "paranormals".

The "recreation of the OBE" wasn't a complete recreation. The illusion was obvious to the people who took part. This is not so in reported OBEs. The effects were simply a mild feeling of being disembodied. OBErs report seeing their bodies, experiencing a "second" body and a strong awareness of being separate from their bodies. Also, people have had OBEs and NDEs in which they've seen things they could not have seen were it "created in the brain". OBEs are powerful experiences that change peoples lives.

This "recreation" of the experience is something that skeptics will of course jump on as an explaination. Thats not science. Science opines while withholding conclusive judgment. I would also like to note that the techniques used in that experiment were a lot like the usual OBE techniques so its not surprising that they had somewhat similar sensations.

About James Randi: his contest is a scam. Nuff' said. It has nothing to do with science.

I also noticed you ignored my previous post in this thread. Maybe you should take a look.