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Old 10-06-2007, 07:39 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Cdn2Wheeler,

I've made all the comments I"m going to make about the Randi challenge on the Randi challenge thread. Go search for it in the archives. If I were to do any challenge, however, it would be in the area of psychic/medium skills. Astral projection is not really my thing nowadays. My days of astral vampire slaying are long gone. My focus now is on helping others, empowering them to learn how to connect with their own intuition, guides, higher self, etc. I spend more time connecting with the deceased than being out of body.

All I really wanted to say, getting back to the initial proof of astral projection thing, is that it's really hard to prove something that is very subjective.

Take dreaming for example. How do we actually know anyone has dreams? Just because a lot of people report them doesn't mean they are really happening. Could just be a trick of the mind or a false memory or something. Sure, we can detect stages of sleep and different brain waves during sleep but has anyone been able to view someone's dream while they are having it? Imagine trying to prove you had dreams. In order to do that, scientists would have to plug into our brains and put what we are experiencing on a big screen somewhere so we could all see this so called dream.

Yet so many people have dreams. If anyone were to tell me I had to prove that I had dreams (not just REM sleep) but actual video images that play in my head while i"m asleep, I'm not sure I could prove that. Nor would I spend much of my time trying. It's not my life's work to prove things like astral projection or lucid dreams, etc.

There's that saying...

To those who believe no proof is necessary
To those who do not believe, no proof is possible.

My advice to everyone is to experience it on your own. If you want to know more about astral projection, study it and try it. If you don't believe in it, move on and leave the people who are experiencing it alone. You won't be able to change their minds any more than they can change yours.
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