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Old 10-06-2007, 06:13 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Erin Pavlina View Post
What makes you think people who astral travel have not been able to prove it to scientists? I think what you're really asking is that if astral travel was real, it would be easy to test scientifically and therefore the whole world would know about it and be easily able to believe in it since it's been scientifically proven. Right?

Let's pretend it's the year 1149 and someone is going on about atoms and quarks and stuff like that. And let's pretend there is a message board. Humor me. And someone comes on and asks, "how come people who claim that atoms exist are not able to prove it to scientists?" The answer: Because no one has invented a device or tool capable of detecting them. Doesn't mean they aren't there.

We're all waiting for "science" to catch up with those of us experiencing this phenomenon.


Erin, this is your lucky day. Scientists recreate out-of-body experience - CNN.com
Science has been able to induce people to have these so called "OBEs". It already catched up with you advanced people that experience this phenomenon. And, not surprisingly to me, the result is always the same. A trick played by our minds.

It's not the first time that as soon as science "catches up" with unexplainable phenomenons, it dismitifies it. The one example that comes to my mind is the epileptic, in the times of Jesus, whom the bible told us was "possessed by demons".

I'm sure, Erin, you can come up with some more examples of phenomenons that are "too advanced" for science to catch up with. Of course, just because science hasn't been able to dismistify or test or measure these phenomenons, doesn't mean that they are real (neither that they're unreal, but until now, every single phenomenon that science "catched up" with, has been dismistified).


I would like to know about those experiments that Erin said to have happened, if someone who actually studied OBEs, before believing it without any proof, could share some links with me about successful experiments, i'd enjoy that.


I also would like to know why no "astral traveller" (at least they have a nice name) has yet been able to claim Randi's 1 Million Challenge (James Randi - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia). As cdn2wheeler said, it's easy to prove it, just make the experiment that cdn2wheeler suggested, and no scientist and no James Randi could deny it. Something so simple, but appearently complicated to the so called "paranormals".
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