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Ron,

I agree that it is unlikely that everyone would be a billionaire, but then again there are many people that do not want to be billionaires, so who is to say that everyone who does want to be a billionaire cannot be? Also, I agree that just wanting to be a billionaire does not mean you will be. There is most certainly a lot of work involved. Someone who wants to have a lot of money, but does not want to put forth the effort to get the money will probably not become a billionaire. There are many people who have thoughts about how nice it would be to have more money then you could possibly need, yet they never act on these thoughts. I believe anyone with the sincere desire to become a billionaire, who actively works towards that intention, for the amount of time require to manifest that intention, can achieve said billionaire status. Then again, I have read accounts of many people that started earning more money when they stopped worrying about money, so maybe the intent of earning money solely for that sake is to the best way to go about it.

Ah, I finally understand what you are referring to, and I agree with you. Not everything works for everyone; I think that point is fairly evident. To that respect, I agree that making sure your opinion is stated as an opinion is better than stating it as a fact.

Well, the ‘cause’ of depression is certainly open to interpretation and is different for everyone. For some people it may be a neurological disorder, for others it is a negative habit of thought, for others it is a form of covering up painful memories instead of dealing with them, etc. There are an endless amount of possibilities and only the person with depression would know for sure. I do not think there is a universal cause, but rather something personal to everyone that triggers this response (which, as stated above, could be any number of things). Hopefully this helps better explain what I meant when I was referring to finding the cause of depression, rather than focusing on the depression itself. Let me know if it is still confusing to you and I will try to explain it a different way if I am able. After looking at what you refer to as ‘depression’ I think we are referring to the same thing, though perhaps my way of describing it needs some polishing.

True, the why and how of the universal consciousness are not know at this level of consciousness. In order to go beyond that to an explanation would require personal beliefs, so it would be hard to use it as a basis for thought in attempting to explain things to someone who does not share the same beliefs. I do agree that, while I personal believe this relates to just about everyone, I would not say with absolute certainty that it does and I apologize if I presented the information in a way that led to inferring such. It is true that there are will almost always be someone that another is simply never able to relate to, but generally I think people can relate to others on at least some level, even if it their first time attempting to relate to each other.

Ah, alright, I understand your feelings a bit better now. There is no way to promise that something can do something else and I can understand the kind of frustration that would come from repeatedly attempting things that you were told would definitely make an improvement if they actually did not.

Hmm ... not sure if it is a trick that can only be used once. I cannot remember what article it was, but Steve did write about putting forth energy to make changes and burning yourself out. Did you try to accomplish too much too soon? I do not think that would be a problem if it lasted for 5 years, but I have no idea what triggered the depression, how you gave yourself hope, or what triggered the lack of hope again. If you feel like sharing that information maybe someone can lend some insight. If that information is too personal though I definitely understand.

Ah, I understand what you mean by the other side of the story. That is probably true to the perspective of the people. Someone who overcomes depression might generally think that if they can do anyone can, so people still depressed are not trying; whereas someone who is still depressed might generally think that other people do not understand their situation and that despite trying very hard no improvements are made so the situation is hopeless. Of course people fall in between these examples at many levels, since these are just generalizations. Regardless I can understand why you would think the burden of proof is on others to demonstrate their point, though I might not necessarily agree with it. It is a different experience for everyone and trying to prove or disprove who did what or how much seems like a waste of energy that could be better spent on achieving a deeper understanding of each other, something that might actually lead to helping people out of depression, instead of trying to put a burden on others.

Best Regards,
John