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Originally Posted by Dharma  Then.... no one can ever support anyone else on their path because anything they say is about themselves and not useful to the person they are speaking with??
When I am with my teachers and classmates, I DEPEND on them to have more awareness about me than I do about certain things. If they did not, I would never get out of certain patterns of denial, because patterns are designed not to be gotten out of. That's the nature of denial.
If we stay at the level of "that's a reflection of a reflection of a reflection... etc.", we'll never get to anything useful, because you can always push it off on the other person as being their reflection. That's a defense mechanism to get the spotlight off of you. Reflection ceases to be a tool of consciousness. |
Dharma, you sure make an awful lot of presumptions! And that's what I'm objecting to. Like: "that's a defense mechanism to get the spotlight off of you." (not something I'm likely to do!). You are perfectly on target in pointing out directions for people to look at themselves, but telling them what they (we) are thinking, doing, or believing is presumptuous. You can tell people they're in denial all you want, but do you think that will help people see themselves more clearly? I don't think so.