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Old 09-25-2007, 02:48 AM   #20 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Mark Lapierre View Post
Uplift, I repeat, this is not an academic paper. This is a discussion. In a discussion I expect people to question me when they're unclear about what I mean, and if they expect me to be 100% clear, to their satisfaction, right from the start, they're guaranteed to be disappointed.


Here:

As per the dictionary, as I stated, faith and belief have similar meanings.

From the definition of belief:

To say a person can have faith in themselves from birth is to say a person can believe in themselves from birth.

You wanted me to use the dictionary meanings. I've done so. I don't appreciate the condescension.

Others have argued that we develop an identifiable temperament at a very early stage, and that it is strongly influenced by our genes and thus may be innate, but still others have argued that specific temperament does not always lead to specific personality, and that personality is even less likely to be predetermined than temperament. But I don't claim to be an expert so statements such as "no-one is born with that degree of confidence" are open to criticism.
If you are interested in discussion free from academic restraints, not imposition of your viewpoint, then don't continually attempt to impose academic, scientific criteria and judgement on others, and lecture as if you, or those you choose are the experts. It is extremely condescending, and totally unfounded. Unless you wish to defer to the scientific viewpoint again and provide proof of your expertise. Have a look at your posts, they are like academic marking of papers, by a senior lecturer.

Again,

The Macquarie dictionary says;

'1. Faith is confidence or trust in a person or thing.'

I made my definition of faith crystal clear, and that it was the basis of my answer to the initial question.

Your continued assertion and application to me of;

"To say a person can have faith in themselves from birth is to say a person can believe in themselves from birth."

continues to not listen to my view, and to attempt to impose your view and confusion about faith and belief, and is extremely condescending.

It was you who pointed out that your lecturers would obviously be disappointed with your answer. Obviously then others could be too.

Regarding;

"But I don't claim to be an expert so statements such as "no-one is born with that degree of confidence" are open to criticism."

Obviously, and as you point out there are varied, expert schools of thought, one of which I agree with and choose. So in that respect, in a discussion, another's view is also open to acceptance and basic respect, regardless of your view.

You constantly point out your expectations, then equally consider those of others.

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