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Old 09-19-2007, 12:31 AM   #45 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Steve Pavlina View Post
I haven't changed my mind on SR, only the language I use to describe it. The "you" I'm describing in that earlier post is from the viewpoint of consciousness itself, not the individual ego.
Maybe you can follow my train of thought this way:
(1) Does this consciousness you speak of have an Ego, or is consciousness pure (God)?

(2) If it's pure God, there can be no Ego. There can be no "imperfection", there can be "nothing to learn" because God already knows everything. God just IS, no need to experience what charity feels like, what this feels like and
that feels like and what this sounds like etc. A Course in Miracles and common sense would say that Consciousness is EGO. Once you rid consciousness of EGO it becomes GOD once again.

So for consciousness to exist it must be where the Ego starts, Yes?

(3) You believe that there is only 1 consciousness. Yes?

(4) If there is only 1 consciousness, there can only be 1 ego. Yes?

Now. I agree that you experience this Ego as Steve. I experience this Ego as Paul. However, I propose that we are the SAME EGO. For whatever reason, this Ego is currently living inside Paul in this very milli-instance writing this post. It is aware of Paul, his hands, it sees through his eyes and sees the screen through his eyes. No other "people" are out there at this milli-moment, just Paul. Nothing else exists except this one Ego who right now this milli-instant is paying attention to Paul and what Paul is doing, nothing else. Nothing can be learned, discovered, experienced in this milli-instant except throught the eyes of Paul. Paul can only grow his awareness to the point where this one shared EGO learns the most looking through Paul's eyes.

As Steve, of course you have the same experience except from your point of view (reading, not writing this post), however YOU are actually ME and vice versa. There is no STEVE EGO and PAUL EGO, there is just EGO and it's BOTH OF US. When it "pays attention" through me, NOTHING ELSE exists except me. When it "pays attention" through you, NOTHING ELSE exists except you.

Why is this an empowering point of view for me?

Because, when EGO sees through me, NOTHING out there exists. EVERYTHING out there is being created this very instant just for me. Therefore if I see something "going on out there", it's actually "going on in here". If I see a mother lecturing her kid on something, I don't think "That kid needs to learn a lesson" I think "I need to learn a lesson here that has to do with that kid learning a lesson". Do you see what I mean?

It essentially means that *IF* Ego (U Call it COnsciousness) is VIEWING something THROUGH my eyes it means that IT IS IMPORTANT THAT I SEE THAT THING THAT IT IS SHOWING ME. The most unimportant of things like a raindrop of my forehead is there for a REASON because I (EGO) created it to be there in this EXACT millisecond on my forehead.

Make sense, or no?
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