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Old 09-18-2007, 11:44 PM   #41 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Steve Pavlina View Post
What happens to the ego after embracing SR is that it takes on a different role. It's no longer regarded as one's true identity. Instead it becomes a tool for exploration and interaction with the physical manifestation of consciousness.
This is a quote from one of your first posts about Subjective Reality:

"In a truly subjective universe, there is nothing outside your own consciousness — no world, no bodies, no brain. Suppose I ask you the question, “If a tree falls in the forest and no one is there to hear it, does it make a sound?” With an objective belief structure, you might say yes, but you might also say no, depending on your views on quantum physics. However, if you believed in subjective reality, you have to reject the question entirely. You’d say that there’s no such thing as a tree outside your awareness. That tree doesn’t even exist. Nor does the forest for that matter. If you are not there to observe it, it doesn’t exist at all. Without consciousness there is no existence."

I'm sorry, but it really sounds like you've changed your mind on subjective reality from the time you made this post, right?

Under you new way of thinking, the tree WOULD exist, the forest WOULD exist because one of the 7 billion people in the world, or 1 of the Zillion Animals in the world, or one of the Zillion insects in the world, or 1 of the Zillion bacteria in the world which make up consciousness WOULD BE THERE TO EXPERIENCE THE TREE FALLING.

Or are you saying that only human beings are conscious?

I get your current view on Subjective Reality. I just don't think it's congruent with your original view on SR. Also, I think your new view is not as accurate as your old view.

Based on your new view of SR, you might as well just summarize it as "YOU (Paul) are actually part of a consciousness that's greater than you, and so are the other 7 billion people on earth. THE END."


Also look at this:

"Why do I identify with this particular body then and not someone else’s?

So you can experience physical reality from a first-person perspective. This allows you to interact with the physical universe on a whole new level, one that isn’t possible if you remain in “god mode.” A physical avatar gives you a richer experience with more possibilties. But you are not restricted to only working through that avatar except to the degree you believe you are. True “god mode” is still accessible to you.
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Here you're saying that consciousness identifies itself with just one avatar. This is how I experience my life. If that is so, that I only experience ONE avatar, that would imply that there only IS one avatar. You say that it is possible to change your beliefs to experience two avatars or more, but until such time as I experience that, would it not be true that there is only one avatar?
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