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Originally Posted by Radog99  Other than getting curious and trying LOA and subjective reality belief systems, does anyone have any suggestions on how to do this? Anyone ever had a transcendent experience that left believing without a shadow of a doubt that yes, this world I have been living in and believing to be "real" is just another layer of the dream? Steve? Erin?
I'd be interested in hearing if this has been the case for someone... |
My experience came several months ago. I was out at a concert with a friend and after getting stoned, she underwent through a major personality shift. She went from being a normal stressed-out run of the mill human to a glowing child. We were talking about how she could stay in that state indefinitely - what sort of beliefs and whatnot were stopping her. And I kept wondering was this the real her or some child identity that she was stuck in from the past.
So I started working with her using The Work, trying to make it easier for her to be who she wanted to be. Then I looked at it from another angle using some identity processes I had read about on the Internet. And as I started to look, I realized that whatever I decided was true would be born out. If I believed the normal stressed-out woman was the real her, I would find it. If I believed the child was the real her, I'd find that too. Or I could believe both or neither were the real her. At that point I realized I was the focal point of my reality, that there could was no absolute truth outside of what I decided. To me that was enlightenment. I had expected fireworks and bliss, but all it felt like was that I no longer was identified with the body and everything around me was sort of unreal.
There are several ways you can have a similar realization. One is to do some spiritual study and attend a satsang or do the old "Who am I?" questioning until you have the experience of "I am". From what I've heard from other people, you often will reach a point at which you hear another person talking or a bird singing and realize it's your voice.
But what I'd recommend is to undergo a major belief shift. Choose two distinct and contrasting beliefs like "People don't like me" and "People like me". Adopt one belief then go hang out with some friends or family members for a day. Then the next day, switch to the other one and see how they react. Not only will you notice a major difference in how they treat you, but so long as you don't have any attention on their previous behavior, it can even be like they have amnesia about the previous belief. They'll never even remember being nasty to you the day before unless you bring it up. To me this is the biggest indication, making inward changes and seeing them reflected in how the people around me think and act - shifts that you would not expect to see in an objective reality, especially in a 24hr span.