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Originally Posted by Dharma  I side with Seth (Jane Roberts) on this one. We are multiple-selves having multiple experiences. Self (the term i use for the one consciousness) creates multiple viewpoints at which to experience itself from. On this planet we have ga-zillions of people, animals, insects, plants, minerals, and objects. All these are conscious in a way and all have an experience self desires. |
The "problem" with this is that then that means that there is SELF (one consciousness) and then there is a few billion people on earth (pieces of the one SELF) and then that means that I (Paul) am not 100% responsible for what I experience. For example, the war in Iraq is not my problem. Some other "piece" of my SELF out there, actually a group of pieces is responsible for those events and I (Paul) am somewhat powerless to do anything about it. As such, I (Paul) would rather focus my conscious effort on something like getting rid of the weeds in my driveway because they are within my immediate vicinity, or creating peace within my family, or whatever.
Also, in this "Multi-self-verse" I (Paul) am limited by the sum of all subconscious beliefs of all the multi-selves. So if I (Paul) want $1M dollars, but the other billion people don't want me to have it, then I will never have it. (just an example, it could just as well be a lamp, or toothpaste, so lets not get into a discussion of greed or whatever as that's not my point).
It then makes this world exist whether or not Paul is conscious at all, and thus limits the amount of responsibility I (Paul) has for this world to about 1/Few Billion.
If this is the case, SR is kind of a useless concept from my point of view.
For some reason, my experience tells me different. I don't know how to prove it or how it even works, but I get this distinct feeling that I (Paul) am resonsible for everything in this world 100%. All the "people out there" are actually just figments of my imagination just like the people in my dreams. They seem to be talking and interacting with me, and it SEEMS like they can think like I can think, but it's all just an illusion. The people in my dreams don't think. If two of them walk over to a corner of the room and whisper something to eachother so that I (Paul) don't hear them, they aren't really whispering anything because they don't exist, they don't think, etc. They only do it because I am creating the experience of having two people go off and whisper something for whatever reason.
Essentially what I"m saying is that within this kind of thinking, there is no "out there" at all. It's kind of like the Holodeck on Star Trek. The only thing that physically exists is whatever is within the vicinity of my body, so kind of like a bubble surrounding me. Outside of that, everything phases out of existance. If somehow I "erased" my thoughts about the war in Iraq, there would be no war in Iraq. Thousands of troops wouldn't have to pull out. No airplanes would have to fly out of there. No battleships would have to sail out of some sea. It just would cease to exist in the first place.